Video Text Transcript of Recovery Now TV Episode 2
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[Mike Cohan]
All we see
is the train wrecks.
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All we see is the people
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shooting up crystal meth
on the street,
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and that's
the entertainment of it.
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But what they don't see
are those people
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that walk up the stairs wrecked.
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They walk up the stairs
just to shower,
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and a short period later,
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they have their family
back in their lives.
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There is so much hope
for everyone.
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This is Recovery Now.
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[audience applauds]
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[Todd]
This time, I was--
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I was ready this time,
you know.
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I was willing to do anything
that they told me to do
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to change my life.
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[Mike Cohan]
Hello, everyone.
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[audience applauding, cheering]
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[Mike Cohan]
My name's Mike Cohan,
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and this is Recovery Now.
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I'm so excited
to be here again.
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This is our second show.
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A lot of people.
It's kind of scary.
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But it's fun.
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Again we feel
that energy of recovery
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in the audience,
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and the audience
is such an important part
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of this show.
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The audience became
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an even more important
part of the show
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for our last episode
at the end.
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We had a little
surprise ending.
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Recovery Now brings
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little snippets
of hope to people
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so that, whether or not
they're in recovery
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or their family members,
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they can see, "Oh, my gosh,
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if that person can do it,
so can I."
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I'm a recovering
crystal meth addict.
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I have six and a half years
of sobriety.
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When I was actively
using crystal meth,
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I wish I had these little
snippets of hope.
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I didn't think that I could
ever live a normal life.
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I felt that I was always going
to be living on the street
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and shooting crystal meth.
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Had someone shown me
that after 28 days
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or even a week period of time
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I could turn my life around
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and move towards
a normal life,
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I probably would have
chosen recovery earlier.
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So we hope with this project
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that there's something in it
for everyone,
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but it really improves
the lives of people
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and lets them know
they're not alone.
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And I need to feel that--
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The people that come up here
need to feel that as well,
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so we will have a great show,
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and this is Recovery Now.
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Our last show ended with Todd.
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Todd was from Pennsylvania,
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and he was struggling
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with getting
into a treatment facility.
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He had tried local places,
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and as soon as he
got out of the program,
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he ended up
relapsing right away
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because it was
too close to home.
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The problem was the finances
were an issue.
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He was trying to get
into a free facility
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and was having trouble
coming out to California
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because of the distance
between.
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So out friend Lauren
brought Todd here,
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and we saw--
the whole group saw--
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his willingness to take
direction and get sober.
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Todd's done an excellent job,
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but for now I want to show you
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a little clip
from last month's show,
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and then we'll bring
Todd out here.
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So you know Lauren.
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[Todd]
Yes.
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[Mike Cohan]
You called her for help?
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[Todd]
Yes.
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[Mike Cohan]
What's going on?
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[Todd]
Well, basically,
I have, uh...
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pretty much lived
a destructive lifestyle
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for the past 20 years
of my life,
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and, uh,
it's only getting worse,
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and, uh, I have a little boy
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that, you know, needs me,
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and, uh, you know,
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I lost my father
to addiction,
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and, uh, I'm trying to...
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not let history
repeat itself, pretty much.
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I had several attempts
at treatment--
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uh, failed attempts,
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uh, on the East Coast,
so, you know,
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I knew I couldn't
do it over there.
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It was just not
going to happen.
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I-- I'd go away
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for, like, 30 days, 60 days.
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I did a couple years
in jail, you know.
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But as soon as I got out,
I went right back to it,
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you know.
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I also sold drugs, too,
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so it was, like, a means
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for me to get money,
you know,
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and, you know, monkeys
can't hold bananas,
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so inevitably I would
go right back to it,
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and, uh, I finally
came to the realization
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that in order for me
to, you know, get sober,
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I have to take myself
out of my element, you know,
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so--
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[Mike Cohan]
That's very smart.
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[Todd]
...I figured--
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I lived in New York, P.A.
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Why not go to California?
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[Mike Cohan]
How old is your son?
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[Todd]
He's 8.
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[Mike Cohan]
He's 8, and you have a wife.
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[Todd]
Common-law. She's--
We're not married,
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but we've been together
for, you know, 13 years.
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She's not going
to marry me right now,
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you know?
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[audience laughing]
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[Todd]
What, you know,
smart woman would?
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You know what I mean?
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But she's waiting there
for me.
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She's-- There's hope.
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Trying to remain as positive,
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I don't--
I'm gonna be honest.
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I don't feel like sitting
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in front of a studio
audience right now,
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not the way I feel
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physically,
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but if this is
what I have to do--
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[Mike Cohan]
I think everyone
in that room
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is sitting up here
with you right now.
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They're all feeling it
because they've been there.
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We have.
We have some people
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that are in primary
care treatment centers.
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We have some people
that are interventionists
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that was recovering
alcoholics or addicts.
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We have owners
of treatment centers,
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and everyone right now
is up here with you,
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and no one in any way
is looking down on you
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because
we've all been there.
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And what we see
in those eyes right now
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is someone that's
willing to get sober
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and someone who's going
to do whatever they can
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because they flew
cross country
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not knowing what it was
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but just going on the trust
of this wonderful person.
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I think that in
the spirit of this show
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and getting hope
to other people,
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what I would like to offer
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from Spencer
Recovery Center--
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they're sponsoring
this show today--
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what we have here
is a package for you,
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and the package
is long-term treatment
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where you can go in tonight
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and you can start
your detox right away
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so you can start to feel
a little bit more comfortable
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and see a physician
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and get some follow-up
medical care
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and group therapy,
individual counseling,
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family therapy.
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They can do it
over the phone
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if they can't come to visit.
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It's intensive therapy
throughout the day
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the first month.
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And then move into
an extended care situation
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where you have a little bit
more community integration.
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You learn how to be
an upstanding member
of society.
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You do some volunteer work,
get some job skills,
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work on your self-esteem.
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Give back right away,
the second month.
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All it takes
is willingness from you--
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willingness
to take the direction,
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and we're here for you.
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[Todd]
Thank you.
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[Mike Cohan]
And it's a long term
program.
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And it's
a private facility,
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but we're willing
to do this
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because we see, uh,
we see that there is hope.
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We want to reach
our hands out to you,
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as people did with us,
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and all you got to do
is say you want the help
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and you're willing to do
whatever it takes.
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[Todd]
Thank you.
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[Mike Cohan]
What do you think?
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Do you want to get sober?
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[Todd]
Absolutely.
With all my heart.
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[Mike Cohan]
You are willing to put
all your old ways aside?
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[Todd]
Mm-hmm.
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[audience applauds]
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[Todd]
It's a long time coming,
Mike.
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It really is, you know.
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But I got to just...
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It has to happen now,
you know?
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Well, we're behind you
every step of the way,
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and this is kind of what
recovery's all about.
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So thank you for coming.
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Thank you
for taking the chance
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and flying across country.
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It shows that you want
to do whatever it takes
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to have what we have.
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Thank you.
All right.
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[audience applauds]
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[Female Announcer]
There are many ways
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to get addicted.
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Fortunately,
there are a number of ways
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to start recovery.
01:07:49:01 --:--:--:--
Call the Intervention
and Treatment Referral now,
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offered by
Spencer Recovery Centers.
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[Mike Cohan]
It's been 28 days,
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and I would like
to welcome Todd
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out to the stage.
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[audience applauds]
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[audience cheering]
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[Todd]
It's really great
to be here.
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[Mike Cohan]
How are you feeling?
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[Todd]
Great. I'm feeling
really good today.
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Uh, it feels good
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not to have to get up
in the morning
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and run around, you know.
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I can get up
and appreciate what I have,
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and, you know, there's hope
for the future, you know?
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It's a process, you know?
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But, uh,
I'm having a good start.
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I'm in a really good place,
and, uh...
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[Mike Cohan]
When you say run around--
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[Todd]
Uh, run around
by going to get heroin,
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pretty much bottom line,
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so I'm not sick, so I can
function for the day.
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[Mike Cohan]
You're
at Spencer Recovery now.
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[Todd]
Yes.
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[Mike Cohan]
What are the mornings
like there?
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[Todd]
Well, I wake up
pretty early now.
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Uh, today I got up
at about 4:30,
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uh, which is too early, but--
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I usually wake up--
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[audience laughing]
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[Todd]
I was kind of nervous
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because I knew
I was coming here today,
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but I usually get up
around 6:00, you know.
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I pray. That's something I was
told to do by my sponsor--
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get up, pray,
look up at my gratitude list.
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That's another thing
I was told to do.
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And, uh, I just get up, pray,
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go eat breakfast, you know,
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maintain personal hygiene,
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and, uh,
take a shower and stuff,
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and go eat breakfast,
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meditate on, you know,
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some positive thoughts
for the day,
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and then go to group.
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We have a 7:00 a.m. meeting
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that just us clients hold,
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and, uh, so we go to that
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to, like, kind of
set the tone for the day
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and, you know, just start it
off on a positive note
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rather than on a negative note.
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[Mike Cohan]
So not having to go wake up
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and figure out how you're
going to find the drugs
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so that you're just not sick--
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not even high,
but just not sick.
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[Todd]
Yeah. Just not sick.
01:09:58:07 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
And now totally changed.
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You're up early-- 4:30.
That is a little early,
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but you're
getting on your knees,
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and you're doing
a gratitude list,
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and it's pretty amazing.
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It's a lot different
than the person
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that was sitting here
28 days ago.
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[Todd]
Yeah.
01:10:10:25 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
What was the transition
like when you went there?
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Did it take a long time
for you to feel
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like you were
part of the program?
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[Todd]
Uh, no, no.
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Uh, actually, for me,
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it was a pretty good
transition
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because I'd been
through programs before,
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and this time I was--
I was ready this time.
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You know, I was willing
to do anything
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that they told me to do
to change my life,
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you know. I, uh--
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Other programs I'd been to,
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I only did it
for the court system
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or, you know,
to please my parents
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or my girlfriend,
the mother of my child,
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or, you know,
outside interfere--
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outside, you know,
people and stuff.
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But for me--
For this time, it was for me.
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I was truly tired
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of living a meaningless
existence, you know.
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I used to call myself
being a good dad
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because I would take my son
to football practice
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or pick him up from school
and stuff,
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but, you know,
I was there at night.
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He'd see me wake up.
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When he woke up
in the morning,
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I was there,
but I wasn't there.
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And, uh, I was just tired
of, you know--
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I want to be a positive
role model for him.
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That's one of my
driving incentives
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is that I can be there
for my son, you know.
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I know, of course, I have
to get myself better first,
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so, you know, that's number 1.
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But, you know, I-- That's--
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I just want to be in his life.
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My father wasn't in my life.
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and I feel it had a bearing
on where my life went,
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you know, and, uh,
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there is a predis--
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a genetic predisposition
in, um, in my family.
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I don't know how much
of a role that played.
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You know,
I think my upbringing--
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the, uh...
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I didn't have a lot
of guidance coming up.
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You know, from the age,
like, 11 to 16,
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I was, like, a latchkey kid,
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and, uh, I had, you know,
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six, seven hours after school
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to do pretty much
whatever I wanted to do.
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And, you know...
01:12:10:03 --:--:--:--
So I don't want my son
to go through that, you know.
01:12:13:06 --:--:--:--
I want to be there for him.
01:12:14:20 --:--:--:--
I want to help him
with his homework
01:12:16:10 --:--:--:--
and just little small things.
01:12:17:27 --:--:--:--
You know? So-- And plus,
01:12:19:18 --:--:--:--
I want to be there
to guide him
01:12:21:08 --:--:--:--
and, you know, so he's not
running around on the street.
01:12:23:14 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
Yeah.
01:12:24:17 --:--:--:--
[Todd]
Yeah.
01:12:25:15 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
Whether or not we're
predisposed for this,
01:12:28:09 --:--:--:--
it gets to a point
01:12:29:18 --:--:--:--
where it almost feels
like a blessing
01:12:31:02 --:--:--:--
to be a part of it,
when you're in recovery,
01:12:33:04 --:--:--:--
because of the people
that you're surrounded with.
01:12:34:24 --:--:--:--
The people--
The genuine relationships
01:12:37:04 --:--:--:--
with people that really
reach out to you
01:12:39:00 --:--:--:--
because it's important
for their own sobriety
01:12:40:14 --:--:--:--
and their own recovery,
to help others.
01:12:42:09 --:--:--:--
[Todd]
Yes. Absolutely.
01:12:43:07 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
Just as you're doing here.
01:12:44:12 --:--:--:--
I asked you
if you wanted to come up,
01:12:46:08 --:--:--:--
and, you know,
you hesitated a little bit
01:12:48:00 --:--:--:--
and said yes, and then
you came back later
01:12:50:05 --:--:--:--
and said, "I hope I'm doing
this for the right reasons."
01:12:52:13 --:--:--:--
And, you know,
it's all about
01:12:54:26 --:--:--:--
just sharing the message
for other people.
01:12:56:27 --:--:--:--
They need to see this.
01:12:58:00 --:--:--:--
[Todd]
It is.
01:12:58:07 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
It's important.
01:12:59:08 --:--:--:--
So now you've been
through 28 days.
01:13:01:00 --:--:--:--
What next?
01:13:02:03 --:--:--:--
[Todd]
Well, I transitioned
01:13:04:17 --:--:--:--
into the sober living house,
01:13:06:29 --:--:--:--
and I'm doing
an internship at Spencer,
01:13:09:11 --:--:--:--
where I'll be, like,
a resident advisor,
01:13:12:16 --:--:--:--
uh, just helping the other
clients out with anything.
01:13:14:12 --:--:--:--
When they go to the beach--
01:13:16:00 --:--:--:--
We're right on the beach,
01:13:17:04 --:--:--:--
so whenever we go to the beach
or to the store,
01:13:19:12 --:--:--:--
I accompany them, you know,
01:13:20:21 --:--:--:--
but I'm still, you know--
01:13:22:02 --:--:--:--
I'm still, you know--
01:13:23:20 --:--:--:--
My ego wants me to tell me
it's something better,
01:13:26:16 --:--:--:--
and that's something
that, with my addiction,
01:13:28:20 --:--:--:--
you know, it's not just
the drugs and alcohol.
01:13:32:03 --:--:--:--
It's me as a person,
as a whole, you know.
01:13:34:18 --:--:--:--
I have to learn who I am
01:13:36:07 --:--:--:--
because for so long
I didn't know who I was.
01:13:38:06 --:--:--:--
I lived in a box, pretty much,
01:13:39:23 --:--:--:--
and I didn't let anybody in,
01:13:42:00 --:--:--:--
and, you know,
I didn't have any feelings,
01:13:43:21 --:--:--:--
and, you know,
so it's a process,
01:13:46:05 --:--:--:--
but it's a beginning,
and there's hope,
01:13:48:04 --:--:--:--
and, you know, I just--
I just gave up,
01:13:51:27 --:--:--:--
and I'm just listening
01:13:53:02 --:--:--:--
to everything
everybody's telling me to do.
01:13:55:12 --:--:--:--
Told me to get a sponsor.
I got a sponsor.
01:13:58:11 --:--:--:--
I never got a sponsor before.
01:13:59:26 --:--:--:--
I never went to meetings.
01:14:00:29 --:--:--:--
I never-- I never-- You know?
01:14:02:15 --:--:--:--
I just-- This time, it's--
01:14:04:17 --:--:--:--
And one of the things
my sponsor told me
01:14:07:03 --:--:--:--
when we started to work
through Step One
01:14:08:27 --:--:--:--
was that in order
to stay sober,
01:14:11:29 --:--:--:--
you got to trust God,
clean house,
01:14:14:22 --:--:--:--
and help others.
01:14:16:06 --:--:--:--
And, you know, to trust--
01:14:17:26 --:--:--:--
In order to, you know,
clean house,
01:14:19:10 --:--:--:--
you have to trust God
to clean house, to help others.
01:14:22:09 --:--:--:--
And I know that, you know--
01:14:24:04 --:--:--:--
I don't know if I'm
going to be a counselor,
01:14:26:09 --:--:--:--
but, you know,
I know that, uh,
01:14:28:21 --:--:--:--
I can definitely help people.
01:14:29:26 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
You're helping people
right now.
01:14:31:11 --:--:--:--
You know, I see you--
01:14:32:13 --:--:--:--
I work for Spencer
Recovery Center,
01:14:33:28 --:--:--:--
so I'm grateful
that I can be there
01:14:36:05 --:--:--:--
and see this transition.
01:14:37:16 --:--:--:--
But always
reaching your hand out.
01:14:39:20 --:--:--:--
You know,
someone leaves group,
01:14:40:25 --:--:--:--
and you ask
where they're going.
01:14:42:08 --:--:--:--
That really makes
a lot of sense, and it's--
01:14:44:11 --:--:--:--
You're reaching out
because you're giving
back what you got.
01:14:46:23 --:--:--:--
[Todd]
I'm extremely grateful,
01:14:48:17 --:--:--:--
extremely grateful
for the gift,
01:14:50:26 --:--:--:--
um, for Spencer Recovery,
01:14:52:23 --:--:--:--
for my higher power.
01:14:54:05 --:--:--:--
And, you know, ultimately,
01:14:56:16 --:--:--:--
in my life experiences,
01:14:57:24 --:--:--:--
I feel like I
had to go through
01:14:59:14 --:--:--:--
everything
that I went through
01:15:00:27 --:--:--:--
to get where I'm at,
you know.
01:15:03:02 --:--:--:--
It was just a matter
of time, and--
01:15:04:27 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
More like it.
01:15:06:00 --:--:--:--
[Todd]
...I accepted that.
01:15:07:03 01:15:08:22
I came to that acceptance.
01:15:14:28 --:--:--:--
[Female Announcer]
There are many ways
01:15:16:01 --:--:--:--
to get addicted.
01:15:17:09 --:--:--:--
Fortunately,
there are a number of ways
01:15:19:00 --:--:--:--
to start recovery.
01:15:20:13 --:--:--:--
Call the Intervention
and Treatment Referral now,
01:15:23:00 01:15:25:13
offered by
Spencer Recovery Centers.
01:15:29:07 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
That is a letter
that I got
01:15:30:21 --:--:--:--
from your 8-year-old
son Max.
01:15:32:26 --:--:--:--
"Thank you for helping
my daddy get better
01:15:35:01 --:--:--:--
"and making him
a better person!
01:15:36:19 --:--:--:--
Thank you, Mike!
From Max, Todd's son."
01:15:39:02 --:--:--:--
[audience members murmur]
01:15:42:15 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
And that really
wasn't, like, for me.
01:15:44:13 --:--:--:--
That's really for you
01:15:45:23 --:--:--:--
because you're doing
all the work, you know.
01:15:48:14 --:--:--:--
We're just doing
what people do in recovery,
01:15:50:04 --:--:--:--
but you're
doing all the work,
01:15:51:13 --:--:--:--
and, uh,
I have a little--
01:15:53:21 01:15:56:09
Your girlfriend
sent me a letter...
01:15:57:12 --:--:--:--
as well,
01:15:58:12 --:--:--:--
and there's a couple
things in here
01:15:59:27 --:--:--:--
that I thought
was worth mentioning.
01:16:02:06 --:--:--:--
"Every time he wanted
to get sober,
01:16:04:07 --:--:--:--
"something would always
stand in his way,
01:16:05:26 --:--:--:--
"whether it was himself
or a lack of insurance.
01:16:09:26 --:--:--:--
"All he needed was someone
to believe in him
01:16:11:26 01:16:13:16
and give him a chance."
01:16:18:17 --:--:--:--
What else do I have here?
01:16:19:17 --:--:--:--
Oh. "Todd sounds happier
than he did in years.
01:16:22:11 --:--:--:--
I'm sure Laguna Beach has
something to do with that."
01:16:25:08 --:--:--:--
[audience laughs]
01:16:26:19 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
"I'm not naive
01:16:27:26 --:--:--:--
"and know that this
is far from being over
01:16:30:03 --:--:--:--
"and it will be a fight
for a lifetime,
01:16:32:06 01:16:34:27
but thank you for giving me,
Todd, and my family hope."
01:16:36:05 --:--:--:--
So how has
your relationship changed?
01:16:38:20 --:--:--:--
Has it? Have you seen
any difference?
01:16:41:19 --:--:--:--
[Todd]
Yes. It was a big difference.
01:16:43:18 --:--:--:--
Uh, our relationship
01:16:46:04 --:--:--:--
has suffered for a long time,
you know,
01:16:49:28 --:--:--:--
and...
01:16:52:00 --:--:--:--
we didn't communicate a lot.
01:16:53:21 --:--:--:--
We were there, you know.
01:16:55:15 --:--:--:--
We communicated for him,
pretty much.
01:16:58:26 --:--:--:--
We didn't have a relationship,
01:17:01:09 --:--:--:--
and even, like,
01:17:02:14 --:--:--:--
the first two weeks
that I was at Spencer,
01:17:04:29 --:--:--:--
like,
when I would talk to her,
01:17:06:13 --:--:--:--
I would be, like, you know,
"How's Max? How are you doing?
01:17:08:27 --:--:--:--
How's the dog? All right.
I'm doing good. Bye."
01:17:10:23 --:--:--:--
That was it, you know?
01:17:12:03 --:--:--:--
And it's because we didn't
have any communication,
01:17:15:03 --:--:--:--
and now, when we talk,
it's getting better.
01:17:18:04 --:--:--:--
We actually talk for,
you know, a few minutes.
01:17:22:00 --:--:--:--
Actually, it was like
an hour and a half
the other night.
01:17:24:14 --:--:--:--
I called her
to say good night,
01:17:25:28 --:--:--:--
and I, you know,
I called to speak to him,
01:17:28:22 --:--:--:--
and it's just-- That's
something that I wanted
01:17:31:13 --:--:--:--
that I want to do now--
I want to do now.
01:17:34:13 --:--:--:--
And, uh, it's getting better.
01:17:35:26 --:--:--:--
Like I said, it's--
01:17:36:29 --:--:--:--
This is far from over,
and it's a process,
01:17:39:17 --:--:--:--
and, you know, right now
I'm feeling happy.
01:17:42:02 --:--:--:--
I'm sure
there's going to be days
01:17:43:25 --:--:--:--
where things
aren't going right,
01:17:44:25 --:--:--:--
but I just have to learn
01:17:46:05 --:--:--:--
how to live, you know,
without drugs,
01:17:49:05 --:--:--:--
on life's terms,
pretty much, with her.
01:17:52:04 --:--:--:--
and we-- we have a lot
of unresolved issues
01:17:54:10 --:--:--:--
that need to be ironed out,
01:17:55:27 --:--:--:--
but it's a start,
and, you know,
01:17:58:21 --:--:--:--
I'm lucky to have her.
01:17:59:26 --:--:--:--
I've put her through hell
for the past...
01:18:03:02 --:--:--:--
seven years.
01:18:05:03 --:--:--:--
I've been in jail.
01:18:07:12 --:--:--:--
Would not come home
for a couple of days.
01:18:09:18 --:--:--:--
I would take her car.
I would steal money from her.
01:18:12:10 01:18:15:20
Uh, I pawned her jewelry.
01:18:16:20 --:--:--:--
I mean, it was-- it was bad.
01:18:19:11 --:--:--:--
The drugs totally
consumed my life,
01:18:21:05 --:--:--:--
totally consumed it,
01:18:22:18 --:--:--:--
and the only thing
that made me happy
01:18:25:12 --:--:--:--
was the drugs to numb it,
01:18:28:19 --:--:--:--
and then, you know, I would
feel worse the next day,
01:18:31:00 --:--:--:--
so I would get high, you know.
01:18:33:11 --:--:--:--
And there would be
moments of clarity,
01:18:35:07 --:--:--:--
where I'd be like
"What are you doing, dude?
01:18:37:03 --:--:--:--
You have a son.
You have this," you know.
01:18:41:04 --:--:--:--
So I was just so far in a rut,
I couldn't get out, you know?
01:18:44:13 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
You know, we put our
family through so much,
01:18:47:12 --:--:--:--
but it's amazing--
01:18:48:24 --:--:--:--
and I'm sure a lot of
people can relate to this--
01:18:51:02 --:--:--:--
how quickly you get
the trust back.
01:18:52:24 --:--:--:--
You know, stealing
their credit cards,
01:18:54:17 --:--:--:--
stealing their wallet.
01:18:55:23 --:--:--:--
It really wasn't you.
01:18:56:25 --:--:--:--
It was more
the drug talking,
01:18:58:03 --:--:--:--
but we-- Our addiction
affects them
01:18:59:29 --:--:--:--
a lot of times more
than it affects us.
01:19:02:03 --:--:--:--
They're the one
that are up worried
01:19:03:26 --:--:--:--
while we're out there high.
01:19:05:24 --:--:--:--
But when you start
to turn around,
01:19:07:17 --:--:--:--
then they see
that glimmer of hope.
01:19:09:25 --:--:--:--
It's amazing
how quickly they are--
01:19:11:03 --:--:--:--
willing to accept you
back in their life.
01:19:13:05 --:--:--:--
Now, you're-- They're
on the East Coast, correct?
01:19:15:18 --:--:--:--
Yes, they're in Pennsylvania.
01:19:16:25 --:--:--:--
Okay, well, we have
a little surprise for you.
01:19:19:05 --:--:--:--
Um, you were going to have
them come out for Christmas,
01:19:21:13 --:--:--:--
but we thought
it would be great
01:19:22:28 --:--:--:--
for them to come out
for Thanksgiving,
01:19:24:02 --:--:--:--
so we have two people
in the audience,
01:19:25:22 --:--:--:--
I think, here--
01:19:27:00 01:19:29:12
two supporting people.
Are they here?
01:19:30:13 --:--:--:--
Come on down.
01:19:32:02 --:--:--:--
[Todd gasps]
01:19:33:09 --:--:--:--
[Woman laughs]
01:19:34:18 01:19:36:13
[audience applauds]
01:19:48:02 01:19:49:16
[Mike]
Come on up here.
01:20:03:07 --:--:--:--
[Todd]
Oh, God.
01:20:04:21 --:--:--:--
[kisses]
01:20:05:28 01:20:08:08
Don't be shy. It's okay.
01:20:12:11 --:--:--:--
Don't cry.
01:20:14:06 01:20:15:28
I like your hair.
01:20:17:17 01:20:19:07
[Mike, crew chattering]
01:20:25:18 01:20:27:23
[audience laughs]
01:20:31:15 --:--:--:--
[Mike]
I got nervous
for a second.
01:20:32:29 --:--:--:--
I thought
that, um, they forgot
to go get you.
01:20:35:06 --:--:--:--
So they're at the restaurant
hiding out.
01:20:36:25 --:--:--:--
I'm like, "They're not
standing up. Where are they?"
01:20:40:06 --:--:--:--
So what do you think?
01:20:41:16 01:20:43:00
Feels good
to see your dad?
01:20:44:02 01:20:45:23
That was a great letter
you wrote.
01:20:48:05 01:20:50:15
What do you want to tell
your dad right now?
01:20:54:27 01:20:56:20
[Todd]
Don't be shy. It's okay.
01:20:59:19 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
It's okay.
01:21:00:21 --:--:--:--
[Todd]
I love you.
01:21:02:08 01:21:04:19
[audience applauding]
01:21:08:17 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
We have Eliza and Max.
01:21:10:11 --:--:--:--
It's great
to finally meet you.
01:21:11:21 --:--:--:--
[Eliza]
Thank you.
01:21:13:03 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
Was an okay flight?
01:21:14:03 --:--:--:--
[Eliza]
Yeah.
01:21:15:00 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
Very nervous, though.
01:21:15:27 --:--:--:--
[Eliza]
Yeah.
01:21:16:13 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
It's so great that you came.
01:21:17:18 --:--:--:--
[Eliza]
Thank you.
01:21:18:08 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
It means so much.
01:21:18:29 --:--:--:--
You know, it's, uh--
01:21:20:07 --:--:--:--
I don't think he thought
that was going to happen,
01:21:22:09 --:--:--:--
but now you can get involved
01:21:23:20 --:--:--:--
with the family therapy
over the weekend
01:21:25:09 --:--:--:--
and spend Thanksgiving here.
01:21:26:18 --:--:--:--
We have a little thing
going on Thanksgiving,
01:21:28:05 --:--:--:--
and you can spend
some time with your dad,
01:21:29:07 --:--:--:--
go to the beach.
01:21:31:08 --:--:--:--
[Eliza]
Excited.
01:21:32:13 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
The family's support
is important.
01:21:33:28 --:--:--:--
How are things going
on your end?
01:21:36:10 --:--:--:--
[Eliza]
It's hard having him
so far away.
01:21:38:02 --:--:--:--
It's hard,
but it's how it had to be
01:21:40:17 --:--:--:--
because he couldn't do it
on the East Coast.
01:21:43:12 --:--:--:--
Um, I think that's one thing
that makes it better
01:21:46:11 --:--:--:--
because he's far away
and he had a one-way ticket,
01:21:48:28 --:--:--:--
and he can't come home.
01:21:50:03 --:--:--:--
[audience laughing]
01:21:51:20 --:--:--:--
[Eliza]
Not till he's better,
and I have hope.
01:21:54:05 --:--:--:--
He's-- He's--
He's done a great job.
01:21:56:00 --:--:--:--
He sounds great on the phone.
01:21:57:26 --:--:--:--
He's taking it seriously.
01:22:00:06 --:--:--:--
It's-- It's hard for my son
and for myself,
01:22:03:16 --:--:--:--
but we're waiting,
01:22:05:08 --:--:--:--
and hopefully--
01:22:07:02 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
You've done your homework,
too, you know.
01:22:08:27 --:--:--:--
The letter that you sent me
01:22:10:05 --:--:--:--
talks about the books
that you've read
01:22:11:16 --:--:--:--
and how you've been
struggling with this
01:22:13:04 --:--:--:--
for a long time,
01:22:14:11 --:--:--:--
and it's almost like
raising a child as well,
01:22:16:18 --:--:--:--
and, you know,
I hope this--
01:22:17:26 --:--:--:--
this show
is good for you, too,
01:22:19:13 --:--:--:--
because people
really can turn around
01:22:20:24 --:--:--:--
and become miracles.
01:22:21:24 --:--:--:--
It's, you know,
it seems right now
01:22:24:12 --:--:--:--
that 28 days isn't
that big of a deal,
01:22:26:08 --:--:--:--
but it so much is,
01:22:27:12 --:--:--:--
you know,
when you see this,
01:22:28:29 --:--:--:--
and you know
and trust that someone
is looking out for you
01:22:31:13 --:--:--:--
and they have your back,
01:22:32:28 --:--:--:--
and that's what's great
about any treatment center.
01:22:34:01 --:--:--:--
You go into
a treatment facility,
01:22:35:16 --:--:--:--
and there are
professionals there
01:22:36:28 --:--:--:--
that put their arm
around you
01:22:38:06 --:--:--:--
and say
it's going to be okay.
01:22:39:20 --:--:--:--
We talked about this
last time.
01:22:41:02 --:--:--:--
People need
that little boost of hope.
01:22:43:04 --:--:--:--
They need to know that they,
too, can become a miracle.
01:22:46:20 --:--:--:--
How are you doing?
01:22:47:24 --:--:--:--
[Max]
Good.
01:22:48:24 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
What grade are you in?
01:22:49:29 --:--:--:--
[Max]
Third.
01:22:50:26 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
Third grade?
01:22:51:20 --:--:--:--
Do you
get good grades?
01:22:53:07 --:--:--:--
Yeah.
01:22:54:19 --:--:--:--
Does your mom help you
with your homework?
01:22:55:23 --:--:--:--
[Eliza chuckles]
01:22:56:23 01:22:58:09
[Max]
Umm, a little.
01:23:01:24 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
Is there anything
you want to say to your dad?
01:23:03:06 --:--:--:--
[Max]
I love you.
01:23:04:08 --:--:--:--
[Todd]
I love you, too,
brazero.
01:23:06:08 --:--:--:--
Tell him about football.
01:23:07:22 --:--:--:--
[Max]
Hmm.
01:23:08:23 --:--:--:--
[Todd]
He plays football
01:23:10:00 --:--:--:--
and wrestles and baseball.
01:23:11:28 --:--:--:--
[Eliza]
Busy.
01:23:12:29 --:--:--:--
[Todd]
He's a good kid.
He's busy.
01:23:14:08 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
When your dad comes back,
01:23:15:25 01:23:17:10
he's going to be
a different man.
01:23:19:00 --:--:--:--
[Eliza]
We heard him say
that he wakes up early now,
01:23:21:02 --:--:--:--
when he was back up there,
and he said "Yes."
01:23:23:03 --:--:--:--
Because before, he was
sleeping all the time,
01:23:25:03 --:--:--:--
so that's one thing
he's happy about.
01:23:27:29 --:--:--:--
[Todd]
Were you here when I
called you this morning?
01:23:30:01 --:--:--:--
[Eliza]
Yes.
01:23:30:07 --:--:--:--
[Todd]
You were?
01:23:31:21 --:--:--:--
I called her at 4:00
when I woke up
01:23:33:23 --:--:--:--
because I knew
it would be 7:00 there,
01:23:35:13 --:--:--:--
but-- No wonder you--
01:23:37:09 --:--:--:--
I was like, "Why aren't you
getting ready for work?"
01:23:39:21 --:--:--:--
[audience laughing]
01:23:40:17 01:23:42:07
[Eliza]
I was here.
01:23:43:09 --:--:--:--
[Todd]
"Uh, I'm late.
01:23:44:19 --:--:--:--
I got to go in late today."
01:23:46:21 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
Eliza, you've been through
other programs before.
01:23:49:18 --:--:--:--
Do you-- Over the phone--
01:23:51:08 --:--:--:--
Over your telephone
conversations,
01:23:52:16 --:--:--:--
is there anything
different
01:23:53:24 --:--:--:--
about what's going on
right now with him?
01:23:55:08 --:--:--:--
[Eliza]
I think, like you said,
01:23:56:13 --:--:--:--
he's here because
he wants to be here,
01:23:58:05 --:--:--:--
and he's taking it all in.
01:23:59:14 --:--:--:--
He has, um--
01:24:00:18 --:--:--:--
He talks about his
group therapy meetings,
01:24:02:23 --:--:--:--
his-- the meetings
that he goes to
01:24:04:26 --:--:--:--
that his sponsors--
01:24:06:08 --:--:--:--
Um, he just talks
about praying,
01:24:09:01 --:--:--:--
and before
it wasn't like that.
01:24:10:25 --:--:--:--
He's really taking it
serious now,
01:24:12:08 --:--:--:--
and I think because
everybody's helping him
01:24:15:29 --:--:--:--
and giving him a chance
that it--
01:24:18:07 --:--:--:--
it's--
it's making it work.
01:24:20:23 --:--:--:--
[Todd]
I was just ready
this time, you know?
01:24:23:26 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
We can tell that.
01:24:24:27 --:--:--:--
I was truly ready,
01:24:26:05 --:--:--:--
and I had to surrender,
01:24:29:05 --:--:--:--
and that was it, you know?
01:24:30:18 --:--:--:--
I could not do it by myself,
you know?
01:24:33:13 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
Well, this right here--
01:24:34:25 --:--:--:--
You guys look
pretty happy to me.
01:24:36:09 01:24:37:22
It's pretty amazing.
You're on your way.
01:24:42:14 --:--:--:--
[Female Announcer]
There are many ways
01:24:43:17 --:--:--:--
to get addicted.
01:24:44:25 --:--:--:--
Fortunately,
there are a number of ways
01:24:46:16 --:--:--:--
to start recovery.
01:24:47:29 --:--:--:--
Call the Intervention
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01:24:50:16 01:24:52:29
offered by
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01:24:56:16 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
I have-- We have time
01:24:57:26 --:--:--:--
for maybe two questions
from the audience.
01:25:00:14 --:--:--:--
[Woman in audience]
I was just wondering
01:25:01:18 --:--:--:--
if you, the wife,
do you do Al-Anon
01:25:03:28 --:--:--:--
and does the son do
Alateen or pre-Alateen?
01:25:07:05 --:--:--:--
[Eliza]
No, we don't,
01:25:08:09 --:--:--:--
but I've actually
been looking into that.
01:25:09:29 --:--:--:--
I've been going
to school myself,
01:25:11:21 --:--:--:--
um, for the past four years,
01:25:13:03 --:--:--:--
and I'm finally done.
I've completed that,
01:25:15:11 --:--:--:--
so now I have more time
to do that,
01:25:18:01 --:--:--:--
but I have been
looking through it,
01:25:19:26 --:--:--:--
and I had asked Mike
for some resources
01:25:21:24 --:--:--:--
to help with myself
01:25:23:13 --:--:--:--
as well as how to talk
to my son about it
01:25:26:13 --:--:--:--
because it's been--
01:25:27:18 --:--:--:--
I almost feel like
I'm an addict myself
01:25:29:19 --:--:--:--
because...
01:25:31:27 --:--:--:--
we have to go through
this every day,
01:25:33:25 --:--:--:--
and we're sober,
01:25:34:29 --:--:--:--
so we don't have that
numbness or that high
01:25:37:00 --:--:--:--
that makes the emotions
go away.
01:25:38:17 --:--:--:--
We have to deal through it
and, um,
01:25:40:19 --:--:--:--
wake up every day
and go to work
01:25:42:15 --:--:--:--
and take care of my son,
so it's--
01:25:44:15 01:25:47:11
it's something
that I need to do as well.
01:25:51:01 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
Anyone else?
01:25:53:19 --:--:--:--
[Woman #2]
Hi. I just wanted
to say to you, um,
01:25:56:00 --:--:--:--
you're very inspirational
as a family for me,
01:25:59:08 --:--:--:--
and I was wondering
how long do you intend
01:26:01:25 --:--:--:--
on staying
at the Spencer House?
01:26:03:10 --:--:--:--
[Todd]
Uh, I'm supposed to be
there another 60 days,
01:26:09:06 --:--:--:--
but I'm not going to put
a time limit on it,
01:26:11:14 --:--:--:--
you know.
01:26:13:13 --:--:--:--
I think when I know
that I'm ready to go back,
01:26:16:18 --:--:--:--
then I'll know.
I don't know right now.
01:26:18:29 --:--:--:--
I'm not ready to go back now.
01:26:20:13 --:--:--:--
I don't think I'll be ready
to go back in 60 days.
01:26:23:20 01:26:27:04
I think I might have to spend
a little more time out here.
01:26:28:11 --:--:--:--
But I don't-- I'm not--
01:26:29:28 --:--:--:--
I don't want to put a time--
01:26:31:12 --:--:--:--
I don't want to look
too far in the future.
01:26:33:14 --:--:--:--
I've been told to, you know,
worry about today,
01:26:37:03 --:--:--:--
and that's really
what I'm trying to do.
01:26:39:28 --:--:--:--
[Woman #2]
Thanks.
01:26:41:02 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
All right, thank you.
01:26:42:27 --:--:--:--
Three of you--
01:26:44:06 --:--:--:--
She said it perfect.
01:26:45:09 --:--:--:--
You are an inspiration
to anyone--
01:26:46:25 --:--:--:--
people that have
long-term sobriety,
01:26:48:23 --:--:--:--
short-term sobriety,
01:26:49:28 --:--:--:--
or just looking
into trying to get sober.
01:26:52:06 --:--:--:--
It's so wonderful
that you three are here,
01:26:54:09 --:--:--:--
and it's so great that you
came across the country for us.
01:26:56:14 --:--:--:--
[Eliza]
Thank you.
01:26:57:01 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
I'm excited to have
you for Thanksgiving.
01:26:58:00 --:--:--:--
I think it'll be a little
different of a holiday for you,
01:27:00:08 --:--:--:--
not having to wake up
and figure out
01:27:01:23 --:--:--:--
where to--
where to find the dope.
01:27:04:28 --:--:--:--
[Todd]
Yeah.
01:27:05:18 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
Your deal.
01:27:06:13 --:--:--:--
[Todd]
It's truly Thanksgiving.
01:27:07:25 --:--:--:--
[Eliza]
Mm-hmm.
01:27:08:27 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
Thank you. Can I--
01:27:09:28 --:--:--:--
Want to shake my hand?
01:27:11:23 01:27:13:13
[audience applauds]
01:27:17:09 01:27:19:03
[participants chattering]
01:28:04:19 --:--:--:--
[Female Announcer]
There are many ways
01:28:05:22 --:--:--:--
to get addicted.
01:28:06:24 --:--:--:--
Fortunately,
there are a number of ways
01:28:08:21 --:--:--:--
to start recovery.
01:28:10:04 --:--:--:--
Call the Intervention
and Treatment Referral now,
01:28:12:21 01:28:15:00
offered by
Spencer Recovery Centers.