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Video Text Transcript of Recovery Now TV Episode 301:00:03:26 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
All we see is the train wrecks.01:00:05:14 --:--:--:--
All we see is the people01:00:06:24 --:--:--:--
shooting up crystal meth
on the street,01:00:08:03 --:--:--:--
and that's
the entertainment of it.01:00:10:05 --:--:--:--
But what they don't see
are those people01:00:11:25 --:--:--:--
that walk up the stairs wrecked.01:00:13:08 --:--:--:--
They walk up the stairs
just to shower,01:00:15:06 --:--:--:--
and a short period later,01:00:16:15 --:--:--:--
they have their family
back in their lives.01:00:18:17 --:--:--:--
There is so much hope
for everyone.01:00:20:08 --:--:--:--
This is Recovery Now.01:00:21:28 01:00:23:29
[applause]01:00:34:14 --:--:--:--
[Jennifer]
Someone introduced me
to heroin,01:00:36:16 --:--:--:--
and once I started, I was
just off and running.01:00:39:02 --:--:--:--
[Cindy]
When my parents did
intervention on me,01:00:41:15 --:--:--:--
I-- I am so grateful
that they did that01:00:44:05 --:--:--:--
because if they
wouldn't have done that,01:00:45:26 --:--:--:--
uh, I wouldn't
be sober today.01:00:48:10 --:--:--:--
[Melissa]
Uh, now I'd say the average
is maybe a week,01:00:52:06 --:--:--:--
a week and a half
that she can stay clean,01:00:54:09 --:--:--:--
but, uh...01:00:55:19 --:--:--:--
she leaves home, and we
don't know what she's doing.01:00:59:03 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
Hello, everyone.01:01:01:07 01:01:02:15
[applause, cheering]01:01:03:29 01:01:06:25
[Mike Cohan]
My name's Mike Cohan,
and this is Recovery Now.01:01:09:20 --:--:--:--
Okay. I'd like
to welcome Jennifer.01:01:11:27 --:--:--:--
Come on up.01:01:14:01 --:--:--:--
Hi.01:01:15:24 --:--:--:--
Give you a hug.01:01:17:14 --:--:--:--
Have a seat.01:01:19:21 --:--:--:--
So thanks for coming.01:01:20:18 --:--:--:--
[Jennifer]
Thank you for having me.01:01:21:17 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
On short notice, too.01:01:22:21 --:--:--:--
[Jennifer]
Yes. Very short,
but it's okay.01:01:24:13 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
So how old are you?01:01:25:12 --:--:--:--
[Jennifer]
I'm 25.01:01:26:16 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
25 years old.01:01:27:18 --:--:--:--
[Jennifer]
Yes.01:01:28:14 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
Okay. And what was
your drug of choice?01:01:30:08 --:--:--:--
[Jennifer]
Heroin.01:01:31:03 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
Heroin?01:01:31:22 --:--:--:--
[Jennifer]
Yes.01:01:32:06 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
How old were you
when you started?01:01:33:17 --:--:--:--
[Jennifer]
18.01:01:35:02 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
Wow.01:01:35:21 --:--:--:--
[Jennifer]
Yeah.01:01:36:06 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
And did something
lead to that?01:01:37:07 --:--:--:--
Or just was it
right to heroin?01:01:38:19 --:--:--:--
[Jennifer]
Um, I had some health issues,01:01:41:24 --:--:--:--
and I started using Vicodin,01:01:43:13 --:--:--:--
and Vicodin was just not
strong enough anymore,01:01:47:02 --:--:--:--
so someone
introduced me to heroin,01:01:49:17 --:--:--:--
and once I started,
I was off and running.01:01:52:07 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
Smoking it?01:01:53:12 --:--:--:--
[Jennifer] Smoking-- Smoking it
for the first couple of years,01:01:55:21 --:--:--:--
and then, at 21,01:01:56:27 --:--:--:--
I met someone who showed me
how to use the needle,01:01:59:05 --:--:--:--
and it was-- it was over.01:02:00:29 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
At that point.01:02:01:21 --:--:--:--
[Jennifer]
Yeah.01:02:02:18 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
So always injecting
from that point.01:02:04:11 --:--:--:--
[Jennifer]
Always injecting,
yeah, heroin,01:02:05:19 --:--:--:--
and then methamphetamines
came in the mix as well. So--01:02:08:18 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
25 years old.01:02:09:23 --:--:--:--
[Jennifer]
Yeah.01:02:10:17 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
And how long have you
been sober for?01:02:11:22 --:--:--:--
[Jennifer]
I'm coming up on nine months.01:02:12:27 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
That's awesome.01:02:13:20 --:--:--:--
[Jennifer]
Yeah.01:02:14:16 01:02:16:26
[applause]01:02:21:00 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
This is what we need to hear.01:02:22:23 --:--:--:--
We need to hear
the nine months story.01:02:24:19 --:--:--:--
It's important.01:02:26:01 --:--:--:--
25 years old, and you have
your whole life ahead of you.01:02:28:15 --:--:--:--
You went down the wrong path,01:02:29:23 --:--:--:--
but I think,
after we hear your story,01:02:31:13 --:--:--:--
maybe it wasn't
the wrong path.01:02:32:28 --:--:--:--
Maybe it was exactly
what needed to happen.01:02:34:18 --:--:--:--
[Jennifer]
I agree, definitely.01:02:35:24 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
Can you just kind of
go in a little bit--01:02:37:26 --:--:--:--
touch a little bit
on how bad it was,01:02:39:22 --:--:--:--
you know, what happened.01:02:40:27 --:--:--:--
[Jennifer]
Uh, well, you know, basically,01:02:42:13 --:--:--:--
I come from, like,
a really good family,01:02:44:03 --:--:--:--
and I just met
the wrong people,01:02:46:00 --:--:--:--
and, um, you know,
next thing I knew,01:02:47:20 --:--:--:--
I was doing heroin,01:02:49:01 --:--:--:--
and basically, at the end,01:02:50:22 --:--:--:--
um, about 10 months ago,01:02:52:24 --:--:--:--
I was, like,
living in a motel room,01:02:54:22 --:--:--:--
and my life consisted
of shooting dope01:02:57:25 --:--:--:--
and figuring out how I was
going to get my next fix,01:03:01:04 --:--:--:--
who I was going
to steal money from,01:03:03:09 --:--:--:--
if it was going
to be my parents,01:03:04:29 --:--:--:--
do credit card fraud,
hustle off the streets,01:03:07:18 --:--:--:--
and basically
it wasn't even like01:03:09:13 --:--:--:--
I was getting high anymore
in the end.01:03:11:04 --:--:--:--
All it was about
was about maintaining,01:03:13:27 --:--:--:--
being well so I wasn't sick.01:03:15:17 --:--:--:--
So it wasn't even fun.01:03:16:26 --:--:--:--
I basically lied in bed
all day and watched TV01:03:19:19 --:--:--:--
and just shot dope,01:03:20:29 --:--:--:--
and, I mean,
it's no existence for a 25--01:03:23:09 --:--:--:--
uh, then 24-year-old.01:03:25:11 --:--:--:--
You know, I just felt like I
was a loser, basically.01:03:28:01 --:--:--:--
I just woke up to this, um--01:03:30:02 --:--:--:--
you know, I came to, like,
to realize, like, what is--01:03:33:18 --:--:--:--
What am I doing with my life?01:03:35:11 --:--:--:--
Like, this is not
what I should be doing,01:03:37:21 --:--:--:--
and I needed help.01:03:39:10 --:--:--:--
And so I went
and got the help.01:03:41:23 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
What was the straw that
broke the camel's back.01:03:44:15 --:--:--:--
[Jennifer]
Um...01:03:47:01 --:--:--:--
just--
I was just sick and tired01:03:49:13 --:--:--:--
of being sick and tired.01:03:50:25 --:--:--:--
I had no one talking to me,01:03:52:16 --:--:--:--
no one in my life.01:03:53:22 --:--:--:--
My family deserted me,
my friends deserted me.01:03:56:15 --:--:--:--
My now ex-boyfriend
wanted basically01:03:58:24 --:--:--:--
to have nothing to do with me01:04:00:19 --:--:--:--
except to get him dope,01:04:02:05 --:--:--:--
and just my life was just
absolutely miserable,01:04:05:15 --:--:--:--
and it was either
keep going on or death.01:04:08:22 --:--:--:--
I mean, I'm convinced.01:04:10:08 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
It's tough at 24 years old.01:04:12:06 --:--:--:--
I got sober when I was
24 years old as well,01:04:14:14 --:--:--:--
and I remember
being in my room,01:04:15:28 --:--:--:--
and just shooting up
crystal meth01:04:17:24 --:--:--:--
and there by myself,01:04:18:25 --:--:--:--
and I got an email
from a friend01:04:20:15 --:--:--:--
that was just purchasing
his first home01:04:22:21 --:--:--:--
and getting married,01:04:23:26 --:--:--:--
and I'm like, you know,
here I am,01:04:25:29 --:--:--:--
and you think that you're
never going to be able01:04:27:17 --:--:--:--
to get that back,01:04:28:29 --:--:--:--
and, you know, it's been--
it's been a time.01:04:31:07 --:--:--:--
It's been a lot of work,01:04:32:15 --:--:--:--
but now those people
are back in my life,01:04:34:11 --:--:--:--
and, um, you know,01:04:35:29 --:--:--:--
they ask me to be part
of the wedding01:04:37:25 --:--:--:--
these days now, you know?01:04:39:01 --:--:--:--
Before, you couldn't
do that, you know?01:04:40:09 --:--:--:--
You couldn't even get
out of the motel room.01:04:41:07 --:--:--:--
[Jennifer]
Right, exactly.01:04:42:11 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
It's really important.01:04:43:09 --:--:--:--
You have so much
ahead of you now.01:04:44:29 --:--:--:--
What's going on
with you now?01:04:46:16 --:--:--:--
[Jennifer]
Um, well, today,01:04:47:22 --:--:--:--
I currently live
at the Friendly House,01:04:50:04 --:--:--:--
and I've been
at the Friendly House
for eight months,01:04:52:28 --:--:--:--
and, uh, the Friendly House01:04:54:10 --:--:--:--
is actually a women's
treatment facility,01:04:56:19 --:--:--:--
um, where they
basically teach you01:04:58:28 --:--:--:--
how to live with dignity.01:05:00:21 --:--:--:--
Uh, I was,
like, a nobody before.01:05:02:23 --:--:--:--
I had no idea
how to live life,01:05:04:13 --:--:--:--
and they taught me
how to be a lady.01:05:06:09 --:--:--:--
They've taught me
how to make my bed.01:05:07:29 --:--:--:--
They've taught me
how to make-- cook dinner.01:05:09:19 --:--:--:--
I never knew how to cook,
and they've taught me that.01:05:11:16 --:--:--:--
They do one-on-one sessions.01:05:13:10 --:--:--:--
The director, Peggy Albrecht.01:05:14:27 --:--:--:--
Albrecht-- We got very close.01:05:16:21 --:--:--:--
I'm able to go
and speak to her01:05:18:11 --:--:--:--
about anything
that's going on in my life.01:05:19:29 --:--:--:--
They've encouraged me
to go back to school.01:05:21:19 --:--:--:--
They've encouraged me
to get a job.01:05:23:06 --:--:--:--
And I'm doing all that today,01:05:24:11 --:--:--:--
and I have my family
in my life,01:05:26:01 --:--:--:--
and that's, like,
the number 1 thing01:05:27:20 --:--:--:--
is I am a responsible,01:05:29:09 --:--:--:--
productive member
of society today.01:05:31:13 --:--:--:--
I'm proud to say that.01:05:33:05 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
Pretty amazing.01:05:35:17 01:05:36:22
Wow.01:05:39:26 --:--:--:--
I actually got a chance
to visit the Friendly House.01:05:43:06 --:--:--:--
Beautiful place.01:05:44:18 --:--:--:--
I went there last week,
walked up the stairs.01:05:46:24 --:--:--:--
There was someone just
coming into the facility01:05:48:14 --:--:--:--
and sitting down,01:05:49:28 --:--:--:--
and there was a member
of the staff01:05:51:18 --:--:--:--
with their arm
around this person,01:05:53:00 --:--:--:--
talking about them
coming in.01:05:54:15 --:--:--:--
And I walked in,
and it's just--01:05:56:06 --:--:--:--
You walk
into a living room,01:05:57:14 --:--:--:--
and it's a big,
beautiful home in L.A.01:05:58:26 --:--:--:--
It's two homes.01:06:00:01 --:--:--:--
But just amazing.01:06:01:13 --:--:--:--
You definitely
got the feeling01:06:02:23 --:--:--:--
that you are home
when you got there.01:06:04:17 --:--:--:--
Our programs
are the same way,01:06:06:04 --:--:--:--
but this is--
People need to hear
about these programs.01:06:08:06 --:--:--:--
People need to hear
that there are programs01:06:10:10 --:--:--:--
that teach you how to be
a woman of dignity,01:06:12:12 --:--:--:--
how to do the normal
things like make your bed.01:06:14:13 --:--:--:--
We take these things
for granted,01:06:15:21 --:--:--:--
but it's important
to know these things.01:06:18:09 --:--:--:--
When we were talking
earlier,01:06:19:22 --:--:--:--
you said you'd been through
how many programs before?01:06:21:18 --:--:--:--
[Jennifer]
16.01:06:22:19 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
16 programs.01:06:23:19 --:--:--:--
[Woman in audience]
Wow.01:06:24:19 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
Okay. So what's different01:06:26:04 --:--:--:--
that's making it work
at the Friendly House?01:06:28:17 --:--:--:--
[Jennifer]
Um, this is the first time01:06:30:13 --:--:--:--
I've ever actually asked
to be put in treatment01:06:32:18 --:--:--:--
and I've actually seeked help.01:06:34:10 --:--:--:--
Uh, what else is different01:06:35:19 --:--:--:--
is I actually work
with the sponsor.01:06:37:05 --:--:--:--
It's highly recommended
at Friendly House01:06:38:19 --:--:--:--
that you work with a sponsor.01:06:40:06 --:--:--:--
You start working the Steps.01:06:41:08 --:--:--:--
Uh, and they have groups there01:06:42:19 --:--:--:--
where you do Big Book
and 12 and 12,01:06:44:15 --:--:--:--
and you actually are able
to learn about the Steps,01:06:46:20 --:--:--:--
and, um, you're able to use
the Steps in your life today.01:06:50:03 --:--:--:--
And I've incorporated
everything I've learned01:06:52:16 --:--:--:--
not only from my sponsor
but from Friendly House,01:06:54:12 --:--:--:--
but from the other women
I live with,01:06:56:02 --:--:--:--
they're all examples,01:06:57:14 --:--:--:--
and, um, I'm able--01:06:58:26 --:--:--:--
That's basically
how I'm able to change01:07:00:24 --:--:--:--
and do what I'm doing.01:07:02:16 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
Called you yesterday.01:07:03:26 --:--:--:--
I got a call this morning
from you earlier.01:07:06:04 --:--:--:--
We talked.
She was so grateful01:07:07:16 --:--:--:--
to be able to come
and help other people,01:07:09:12 --:--:--:--
knowing that these are going
to be stories of hope.01:07:11:14 --:--:--:--
This is what recovery's
all about,01:07:12:22 --:--:--:--
and you are a miracle,01:07:14:02 --:--:--:--
and you are welcome
to come back any time.01:07:15:03 --:--:--:--
[Jennifer]
Thank you so much.01:07:16:00 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
Thank you very much.01:07:17:11 --:--:--:--
You did great.01:07:18:28 --:--:--:--
[Jennifer]
Thank you.01:07:19:25 01:07:21:11
[Mike Cohan]
Good job.01:07:28:09 --:--:--:--
[Female Announcer]
There are many ways01:07:29:12 --:--:--:--
to get addicted.01:07:30:20 --:--:--:--
Fortunately,
there are a number of ways01:07:32:11 --:--:--:--
to start recovery.01:07:33:24 --:--:--:--
Call the Intervention
and Treatment Referral now,01:07:36:11 01:07:38:24
offered by
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[Jennifer]
So you're Cindy,
my next guest.01:07:44:10 --:--:--:--
And I've
invited Cindy up here01:07:46:16 --:--:--:--
because she works in
the field of addiction01:07:48:27 --:--:--:--
but-- and also works
with interventions.01:07:50:26 --:--:--:--
[Cindy]
Mm-hmm.01:07:52:02 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
She also has experience01:07:53:17 --:--:--:--
with her own family
with interventions,01:07:56:02 --:--:--:--
so I thought
it would be interesting01:07:57:19 --:--:--:--
to have her point of view
and perspective.01:07:59:09 --:--:--:--
We can open it up
for some questions as well.01:08:01:08 --:--:--:--
[Cindy]
My parents, when I--01:08:02:12 --:--:--:--
when I got sober 13 years ago,01:08:04:19 --:--:--:--
did intervention on me.01:08:06:16 --:--:--:--
I am so grateful
that they did that01:08:09:04 --:--:--:--
because if they
wouldn't have done that,01:08:11:06 --:--:--:--
um, I wouldn't be sober today.01:08:13:11 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
If you can remember back
13 years ago01:08:15:04 --:--:--:--
when your family did
an intervention on you,01:08:17:04 --:--:--:--
you said that it
was good for you.01:08:18:24 --:--:--:--
That's what got you
into treatment.01:08:20:08 --:--:--:--
And at the time, were you
resistant to going?01:08:22:11 --:--:--:--
Or was it almost like01:08:24:00 --:--:--:--
"Oh, there you guys are,
I've been waiting for you"?01:08:25:28 --:--:--:--
[Cindy]
I didn't have a problem.01:08:27:05 --:--:--:--
They had the problem.
They were crazy.01:08:29:26 --:--:--:--
And I was in complete denial.01:08:32:03 --:--:--:--
I did not want
to admit anything.01:08:34:11 --:--:--:--
I didn't want--01:08:35:15 --:--:--:--
I didn't want
anybody to know.01:08:37:07 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
13 years later, and now
you're helping other people.01:08:40:06 --:--:--:--
You set up interventions
for people.01:08:41:19 --:--:--:--
You set up
low-cost interventions.01:08:43:27 --:--:--:--
[Cindy]
In these times, you know,01:08:45:11 --:--:--:--
people don't have a lot
of money for treatment.01:08:47:07 --:--:--:--
I love being able
to help people.01:08:50:11 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
What are the responses
from most of the people01:08:52:27 --:--:--:--
when you say that they need
to do an intervention? Do you
feel like--01:08:55:16 --:--:--:--
[Cindy]
"There's no way
they're going to go."01:08:57:12 --:--:--:--
My-- That's exactly just about
what every one of them says.01:09:01:02 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
You said that
you had experience01:09:03:01 --:--:--:--
with your own
family member.01:09:04:11 --:--:--:--
How long was that
person using01:09:06:24 --:--:--:--
and that you knew about it01:09:08:02 --:--:--:--
before you actually
did the intervention?01:09:09:17 --:--:--:--
[Cindy]
When I knew for sure
a hundred percent01:09:11:29 --:--:--:--
that he was using.01:09:13:08 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
Okay. Was there a little
denial on that part, too?01:09:15:17 --:--:--:--
[Cindy]
There was some denial, yes.01:09:16:24 --:--:--:--
And when it's
in your own backyard,01:09:18:21 --:--:--:--
when you have a family member
that has the disease,01:09:21:22 --:--:--:--
it's just a totally
different situation.01:09:25:02 --:--:--:--
Your professional mind
just goes out the door.01:09:27:22 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
Whenever a parent suspects
there's using or drinking,01:09:32:06 --:--:--:--
the answer's usually yes.
It's usually--01:09:34:02 --:--:--:--
[Cindy]
Oh, yeah.01:09:34:29 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
You don't usually find out01:09:36:04 --:--:--:--
"Oh, it's something
different."01:09:37:14 --:--:--:--
[Cindy]
You just have hopes
that it's not, you know?01:09:39:13 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
That's what's difficult.01:09:40:29 --:--:--:--
So the hope
keeps you in denial.01:09:42:14 --:--:--:--
[Cindy]
It was almost
like I was addicted01:09:44:13 --:--:--:--
to my loved one's
problem or him.01:09:48:02 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
That's interesting.01:09:49:13 --:--:--:--
[Cindy]
And it's just like the disease
of drugs and alcohol,01:09:52:01 --:--:--:--
I-- I wanted
to take care of him01:09:54:04 --:--:--:--
and stay in that--
that disease.01:09:58:09 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
So you did the intervention,01:09:59:12 --:--:--:--
and how did you feel after?01:10:00:28 --:--:--:--
Did you feel
you created a boundary,01:10:02:17 --:--:--:--
or what were your thoughts
at that point?01:10:04:07 --:--:--:--
[Cindy]
Relief. That's what happens
if it's done and the--01:10:08:00 --:--:--:--
you know, when my loved one
was driving down the street,01:10:10:07 --:--:--:--
I was just like,
Oh, my God, he's leaving.01:10:13:12 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
I think there's a lot of people01:10:14:26 --:--:--:--
who are under
the impression--01:10:16:14 --:--:--:--
which it could be--01:10:17:23 --:--:--:--
that the person
needs to be ready,01:10:19:11 --:--:--:--
and I agree with that,01:10:20:29 --:--:--:--
but I also think
there's a line01:10:22:12 --:--:--:--
where, okay, the person
doesn't know who they are01:10:24:19 --:--:--:--
or what they're doing,01:10:25:26 --:--:--:--
and if you are a loving
family member,01:10:27:17 --:--:--:--
could you step in?01:10:28:26 --:--:--:--
I mean, I don't think--01:10:30:05 --:--:--:--
In my opinion, if--
In certain cases,01:10:33:03 --:--:--:--
it does help for the family
members to step in.01:10:35:13 --:--:--:--
[Cindy]
I hear that, you know.01:10:37:02 --:--:--:--
When we got to wait till our
loved one hits rock bottom,01:10:39:16 --:--:--:--
and I ask them
"How can you wait?"01:10:42:02 --:--:--:--
"How are you going
to be able to do that?"01:10:44:16 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
Family members, you know,01:10:46:06 --:--:--:--
can be part of the denial,
too,01:10:47:20 --:--:--:--
but not wanting
to rock the boat,01:10:49:11 --:--:--:--
not wanting to put
that boundary01:10:50:25 --:--:--:--
and actually
go forward with it01:10:52:09 --:--:--:--
because they're afraid they
might lose their loved one01:10:54:05 --:--:--:--
or their friend.01:10:55:09 --:--:--:--
If you think about it
in terms--01:10:56:23 --:--:--:--
and I know it's
easier said than done.01:10:58:21 --:--:--:--
What would you think
in your mind01:11:00:05 --:--:--:--
what you should have
said to this person?01:11:01:25 --:--:--:--
It wouldn't have been
"Well, I was worried01:11:03:15 --:--:--:--
that I was going
to make you angry."01:11:05:05 --:--:--:--
It would have been "I'll
tell whoever I have to tell01:11:07:11 --:--:--:--
to get you
out of this disease."01:11:08:23 --:--:--:--
So I think it's interesting01:11:10:06 --:--:--:--
to have some questions
from the audience here.01:11:12:25 --:--:--:--
Cindy kind of works
on both sides01:11:14:16 --:--:--:--
and also
has had experience--01:11:16:08 --:--:--:--
Someone did
an intervention on her,01:11:17:29 --:--:--:--
and she did an intervention
on one of her loved ones.01:11:20:12 --:--:--:--
So I think it would
be informative01:11:21:29 01:11:23:26
if anyone would like
to ask any questions.01:11:25:29 --:--:--:--
[Melissa]
Hi.01:11:27:08 --:--:--:--
[Cindy]
Hi.01:11:28:12 --:--:--:--
[Melissa]
How do you know01:11:29:19 01:11:31:12
when the time is right
for an intervention?01:11:32:21 --:--:--:--
[Cindy]
When the time is right is now.01:11:35:26 --:--:--:--
[Cindy]
Well, we-- As a mom,01:11:38:22 --:--:--:--
we know
there's a problem,01:11:40:00 --:--:--:--
and we try to fix it.01:11:41:14 --:--:--:--
We try to help it.01:11:42:22 --:--:--:--
You feel like you can
get beyond this01:11:44:12 --:--:--:--
so you don't need
to do an intervention,01:11:46:02 --:--:--:--
but there has to become
a point--01:11:48:16 --:--:--:--
I mean, when is it01:11:49:22 --:--:--:--
that's-- should trigger
in my head01:11:51:08 --:--:--:--
I have to do this now?01:11:54:01 --:--:--:--
[Cindy]
Take all those what-ifs,
throw them out the window,01:11:56:26 --:--:--:--
and just do
what you got to do,01:11:58:12 --:--:--:--
and that would be doing--01:12:01:00 --:--:--:--
getting your loved one help.01:12:02:14 --:--:--:--
Treatment works.01:12:04:22 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
It's so difficult when it's--
when it's your own loved one,01:12:07:13 --:--:--:--
but if you think about it
in a way of if a friend--01:12:09:16 --:--:--:--
if a good friend
came to you and asked you01:12:12:09 --:--:--:--
what they would do
with their family member01:12:13:29 --:--:--:--
for an intervention,01:12:15:03 --:--:--:--
what would you
say to them?01:12:16:11 --:--:--:--
And you got to put
your own emotions out,01:12:18:07 --:--:--:--
even though there are
a lot of emotions01:12:19:27 --:--:--:--
that need to be expressed
in an intervention,01:12:21:17 --:--:--:--
but putting those all aside01:12:23:01 --:--:--:--
and looking at it
just straight-on,01:12:24:19 --:--:--:--
like you would give
advice to a friend,01:12:26:25 --:--:--:--
makes it a little easier.01:12:28:12 --:--:--:--
You just put it all off,01:12:29:20 --:--:--:--
and when you
see stories like--01:12:30:28 --:--:--:--
that people that have
shared with us here.01:12:32:18 --:--:--:--
Look around this room,
with everyone here
in recovery.01:12:34:25 --:--:--:--
It's like, how could you
say no to this?01:12:36:26 --:--:--:--
It's a helpful thing01:12:38:02 --:--:--:--
to have everyone here
in recovery.01:12:39:18 --:--:--:--
That we spend
so much time out there.01:12:41:07 --:--:--:--
I mean, with crystal meth,01:12:42:15 --:--:--:--
I thought
that it was just best01:12:44:01 --:--:--:--
to just stay on the street
shooting up,01:12:45:21 --:--:--:--
and that was
the easiest thing.01:12:47:09 --:--:--:--
I didn't want to have to
just, you know,01:12:49:04 --:--:--:--
go into a recovery center.
I didn't want to stand--01:12:51:07 --:--:--:--
I thought it was like
you're standing around
holding hands.01:12:53:06 --:--:--:--
I watched that movie
28 Days,01:12:55:11 --:--:--:--
and it just looked
so hokey, you know?01:12:57:02 --:--:--:--
Big thing, but they're
not uncommon in recovery.01:12:59:09 --:--:--:--
So it seems so simple
to just make that step,01:13:02:22 --:--:--:--
but it's just how do we
get the people01:13:04:18 --:--:--:--
to actually just
take the step and do it,01:13:06:12 --:--:--:--
and it starts
with the family01:13:07:17 --:--:--:--
just going ahead
with the intervention.01:13:08:23 --:--:--:--
It starts with the client01:13:09:26 --:--:--:--
actually coming in
to treatment01:13:10:29 --:--:--:--
and beginning their lives.01:13:12:08 --:--:--:--
What is your name?01:13:13:11 --:--:--:--
[Melissa]
Melissa.01:13:14:18 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
Would you mind coming up01:13:15:26 --:--:--:--
so we could ask you
some more questions?01:13:17:18 --:--:--:--
[Melissa]
Uh, sure.01:13:18:24 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
Come on up.01:13:19:27 --:--:--:--
Okay. Or come on down.01:13:21:18 01:13:23:20
Like The Price is Right.01:13:31:01 --:--:--:--
[Female Announcer]
There are many ways01:13:32:04 --:--:--:--
to get addicted.01:13:33:12 --:--:--:--
Fortunately,
there are a number of ways01:13:35:03 --:--:--:--
to start recovery.01:13:36:16 --:--:--:--
Call the Intervention
and Treatment Referral now,01:13:39:03 01:13:41:16
offered by
Spencer Recovery Centers.01:13:44:08 --:--:--:--
[laughter, applause]01:13:46:07 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
Have a seat.01:13:48:22 01:13:50:02
You're
in the hot seat.01:13:53:23 --:--:--:--
So it's good to hear
from your question,
actually.01:13:55:19 --:--:--:--
We have a lot of people
in recovery,01:13:57:09 --:--:--:--
but it sounds like you
have a loved one who's--01:13:59:11 --:--:--:--
or you want
to make the decision01:14:00:25 --:--:--:--
to do an intervention.01:14:02:03 --:--:--:--
[Melissa]
I do. I do have a loved one,01:14:03:27 --:--:--:--
and I guess I've felt01:14:06:18 --:--:--:--
that it's been time
for a long time,01:14:09:04 --:--:--:--
but, um,01:14:10:28 --:--:--:--
the same thing was happening01:14:12:18 --:--:--:--
where she thought
she could do it herself.01:14:15:09 --:--:--:--
She didn't need to go
to a recovery center or rehab.01:14:19:24 --:--:--:--
Uh, and I wanted
to believe her.01:14:22:08 --:--:--:--
I still want to believe her,01:14:23:19 --:--:--:--
but I know better.01:14:25:07 --:--:--:--
I believe I know better.01:14:27:01 01:14:29:14
Health-wise,
I know it's--01:14:31:09 --:--:--:--
well, killing her.01:14:32:29 --:--:--:--
And it's destructive
for the family,01:14:36:09 --:--:--:--
and, um, she's so young,
and she's so beautiful,01:14:40:13 --:--:--:--
and she can do so much,01:14:43:10 --:--:--:--
and I-- I hear
the stories of people01:14:45:00 --:--:--:--
where it drags on with them01:14:46:15 --:--:--:--
for 10, 15, 20 years.01:14:49:25 --:--:--:--
And I don't want
to see her in 20 years01:14:52:13 --:--:--:--
in the same situation,01:14:53:24 --:--:--:--
and I-- I--
She's a strong girl,01:14:56:27 --:--:--:--
but I don't think
that she's strong enough01:14:59:09 --:--:--:--
to do this alone.01:15:00:13 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
What is the drug
of choice?01:15:01:26 --:--:--:--
[Melissa]
Meth.01:15:02:23 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
Okay. That's a tough one.01:15:04:23 --:--:--:--
[Melissa]
She leaves home, and we
don't know what she's doing.01:15:07:22 --:--:--:--
She could be doing it
every day,01:15:09:23 --:--:--:--
um, or every other day.01:15:12:05 --:--:--:--
I don't know.
We just don't know.01:15:13:22 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
So she lives with you
but leaves home to use?01:15:16:07 --:--:--:--
Is that what happens?01:15:17:18 --:--:--:--
[Melissa]
Uh, she was living at home,01:15:18:26 --:--:--:--
and then she just really
permanently left.01:15:21:15 --:--:--:--
Uh, she has recently
come back a couple times.01:15:23:20 --:--:--:--
I know she wants
to straighten her life out.01:15:27:09 --:--:--:--
She has made the call
once to me.01:15:30:18 --:--:--:--
"Mom, I want to come home."01:15:32:20 --:--:--:--
Um...01:15:34:26 --:--:--:--
And then, uh, she left again.01:15:36:13 --:--:--:--
I mean, she got back into it,01:15:38:25 --:--:--:--
and then she called her dad
not too long ago,01:15:41:21 --:--:--:--
just a few days ago,01:15:42:23 --:--:--:--
and said she wanted
to come home.01:15:44:13 --:--:--:--
So I believe
she's at the point01:15:47:22 --:--:--:--
where, um, she's ready,
she wants to,01:15:51:26 --:--:--:--
but I still don't think
she can do it alone.01:15:54:11 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
How many people
in the audience01:15:56:04 01:15:58:26
are, um, recovering
from crystal meth?01:15:59:26 --:--:--:--
[Mike snickers]01:16:00:26 --:--:--:--
[Melissa]
Wow. My--01:16:01:27 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
Okay. The ones that,
uh, you know,01:16:04:04 --:--:--:--
you used for
the whole weekend,01:16:06:02 --:--:--:--
You sneak back in the house,01:16:07:12 --:--:--:--
thinking that it was just
an hour ago that you left,01:16:09:20 --:--:--:--
and it's been three days.01:16:10:09 --:--:--:--
[audience laughter]01:16:11:10 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
Your jaw is out to here,01:16:13:03 --:--:--:--
you know, and you're--
you're 15 pounds lighter,01:16:16:05 --:--:--:--
and then, you know,
you go to--01:16:17:17 --:--:--:--
you don't go to sleep.
You just pass out,01:16:19:13 --:--:--:--
and you sleep really strong,01:16:20:18 --:--:--:--
and you wake up
and probably eat,01:16:22:02 --:--:--:--
like, four or five
strawberry shortcakes01:16:23:13 --:--:--:--
because you haven't
had any sugar,01:16:24:21 --:--:--:--
And then, you know, Monday01:16:26:08 --:--:--:--
it's like you're
reaching out for help01:16:27:21 --:--:--:--
because everything is so bad.01:16:29:06 --:--:--:--
The heat is on, and you're
feeling depressed.01:16:32:12 --:--:--:--
And then Tuesday you might
be feeling a little bit worse,01:16:35:20 --:--:--:--
but all of a sudden,
Wednesday comes along.01:16:37:10 --:--:--:--
Maybe you've held yourself
up for work for two days01:16:40:06 --:--:--:--
or you've at least
slept away the meth,01:16:42:28 --:--:--:--
you know,
and the whole weekend
that you've been up for,01:16:45:05 --:--:--:--
and you've gotten
your sugar back,01:16:47:01 --:--:--:--
so you're feeling better.01:16:48:10 --:--:--:--
And then Thursday
comes along,01:16:49:20 --:--:--:--
and you really don't
think about it very much,01:16:51:10 --:--:--:--
and then, all of a sudden,01:16:52:17 --:--:--:--
you find yourself
at your dealer's house01:16:54:01 --:--:--:--
on Friday night,01:16:55:06 --:--:--:--
and it happens week
after week after week.01:16:57:16 --:--:--:--
It's true it's not exactly
that way for everyone,01:16:59:12 --:--:--:--
but for me
that's what it was like.01:17:01:02 --:--:--:--
And it's a lot of effort
put into that,01:17:03:22 --:--:--:--
and it's,
you know, it's not--01:17:05:04 --:--:--:--
for your body
it's not worth it.01:17:06:15 --:--:--:--
But you see those hands.01:17:07:24 --:--:--:--
I mean,
I just felt that love01:17:09:07 --:--:--:--
when those hands went up
from crystal meth01:17:10:27 --:--:--:--
because we all know
what that's like.01:17:12:17 --:--:--:--
It's, uh-- It's evil.
It's a scary drug,01:17:15:15 --:--:--:--
and the people
that are dealing it,01:17:17:11 --:--:--:--
the people that are,
you know, surrounding it01:17:20:13 --:--:--:--
are dangerous people,
you know.01:17:22:18 --:--:--:--
You might not hear
every day01:17:23:26 --:--:--:--
that a person overdoses
on crystal meth,01:17:25:13 --:--:--:--
and I know that it happens,01:17:27:04 --:--:--:--
but there's other--
other issues,01:17:28:25 --:--:--:--
you know, being involved
with these people01:17:30:09 --:--:--:--
that are paranoid,
that if you go near them,01:17:32:05 --:--:--:--
they're like an angry animal,01:17:33:10 --:--:--:--
like you're jumping out
at an angry animal.01:17:35:12 --:--:--:--
so who is this loved one?01:17:37:26 --:--:--:--
[Melissa]
Uh, it's my daughter.01:17:39:27 --:--:--:--
What's
your daughter's name?01:17:40:27 --:--:--:--
[Melissa]
Her name's Megan.01:17:42:09 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
Okay.01:17:42:23 --:--:--:--
And, uh, how old is she?01:17:44:27 --:--:--:--
[Melissa]
20.01:17:46:02 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
She's 20.01:17:46:25 --:--:--:--
[Melissa]
Yeah. Yeah.01:17:49:05 --:--:--:--
Uh, and, uh, this
has been ongoing for--01:17:53:00 --:--:--:--
[sniffle]01:17:54:08 --:--:--:--
uh, five, maybe six years--01:17:57:01 01:17:59:05
not all with meth, but...01:18:00:11 --:--:--:--
long enough with the meth.01:18:02:11 --:--:--:--
[sigh]01:18:03:13 01:18:05:03
And it breaks my heart.01:18:06:05 01:18:07:28
[Mike Cohan]
What would you say
to her right now?01:18:12:20 01:18:13:28
[Melissa]
I love her.01:18:15:06 01:18:17:21
And I want the world for her.01:18:23:04 01:18:25:07
And just please.01:18:26:11 01:18:28:27
Please do what we need
to do to help you.01:18:36:12 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
Megan?01:18:37:07 --:--:--:--
[Megan]
Hi.01:18:38:15 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
Hi.01:18:39:13 --:--:--:--
[audience laughter]01:18:40:14 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
Can-- Can you--01:18:42:05 --:--:--:--
Can you come down here?01:18:43:18 --:--:--:--
We promise we won't bite.01:18:45:00 01:18:46:03
[applause]01:18:51:28 01:18:53:22
[Cindy]
You can press a lot better.01:19:01:18 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
Well, you're so brave
to come up here.01:19:03:25 --:--:--:--
[Megan]
Yeah. I'm a brave girl.01:19:05:16 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
Thanks for coming up here.01:19:07:10 --:--:--:--
What were you thinking
out there in the audience?01:19:09:01 --:--:--:--
[Megan]
That I knew that
this was coming.01:19:11:03 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
Well, you know
you're struggling.01:19:12:13 --:--:--:--
Well, we know
you're struggling.01:19:13:20 --:--:--:--
And I know you've tried.01:19:15:20 --:--:--:--
You've been
through that cycle.01:19:16:23 --:--:--:--
[Megan]
Yes, I have.01:19:18:01 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
You know, so you
understood that story.01:19:19:25 --:--:--:--
[Megan]
Yes.01:19:20:13 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
You know, it's like,01:19:21:14 --:--:--:--
why waste the time
at this point?01:19:23:02 --:--:--:--
[Megan]
Mm-hmm.01:19:24:03 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
And I think you can feel01:19:25:13 --:--:--:--
the people in this room,01:19:26:24 --:--:--:--
the love in this room.01:19:28:02 --:--:--:--
There's many different
lengths of sobriety.01:19:30:06 --:--:--:--
Some other people that are
looking to get sober as well,01:19:32:10 --:--:--:--
but that's the beauty
of this group01:19:33:25 --:--:--:--
because they're all here,01:19:35:17 --:--:--:--
and no one's judging you
in any way,01:19:37:07 --:--:--:--
and we're all like,
"Oh, boy,01:19:38:16 --:--:--:--
we've been there before."01:19:39:22 --:--:--:--
[Megan]
What a relief, definitely.01:19:41:02 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
It is?01:19:41:21 --:--:--:--
[Megan]
To know that everybody else01:19:42:26 --:--:--:--
has been through
the same thing01:19:44:13 --:--:--:--
because it's hard
to explain01:19:45:20 --:--:--:--
to somebody
that hasn't been there.01:19:47:20 --:--:--:--
It's hard to get them
to understand01:19:49:04 --:--:--:--
because that's
what you're afraid of01:19:50:19 --:--:--:--
is being judged by them,01:19:52:04 --:--:--:--
and it's nice to know
that there's other people01:19:54:22 01:19:56:27
that feel exactly what
you're going through.01:19:58:11 --:--:--:--
I've mostly just kind of
just disappeared.01:20:02:04 --:--:--:--
I'm a-- the master of MIA.01:20:04:18 --:--:--:--
So-- [laughing]01:20:06:00 --:--:--:--
But I finally decided01:20:09:02 --:--:--:--
that it's-- that I need
my family there01:20:11:29 --:--:--:--
and to not be afraid.01:20:13:17 --:--:--:--
They know
I'm in my addictions,01:20:15:00 --:--:--:--
so it's better
to have them there01:20:17:02 --:--:--:--
rather than pushing them away,01:20:18:29 --:--:--:--
and now I realize
that I do need them01:20:22:24 --:--:--:--
and I need help01:20:24:02 --:--:--:--
because I've been trying
this on my own for years.01:20:26:25 --:--:--:--
As young as I am,01:20:28:16 --:--:--:--
it's been-- it's been
an ongoing battle,01:20:30:19 --:--:--:--
and I'm ready to stop it.01:20:33:18 --:--:--:--
Done with it.01:20:35:12 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
What has been--
Before the drug problem,01:20:37:15 --:--:--:--
what was it-- what was
your dream to become?01:20:40:03 --:--:--:--
[Megan]
A schoolteacher.01:20:41:03 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
Schoolteacher.01:20:42:03 --:--:--:--
[Megan]
And I still have that,01:20:43:09 --:--:--:--
but I have more plans,
actually.01:20:44:17 --:--:--:--
I want to have an in-home
day care center.01:20:46:13 --:--:--:--
That's my goal,
so I can be a stay-home mom01:20:48:15 --:--:--:--
and get married
and all that good stuff.01:20:50:16 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
Can you tell me, um,01:20:52:03 --:--:--:--
any bit about how bad
it's been right now?01:20:55:01 --:--:--:--
I mean, I know
that Mom's here,01:20:56:15 --:--:--:--
but we all know
at this point,01:20:57:29 --:--:--:--
but, you know,01:20:59:10 --:--:--:--
what's gone on
just recently that's--01:21:01:08 --:--:--:--
[Megan]
Uh, well,01:21:02:24 --:--:--:--
on the 22nd of October,01:21:04:14 --:--:--:--
I called my mom,01:21:05:22 --:--:--:--
and I asked her
to come pick me up,01:21:07:18 --:--:--:--
and she lives in Arizona,
mind you,01:21:09:07 --:--:--:--
and she came and picked me up
all the way to Ramona.01:21:12:22 --:--:--:--
I don't know if any of you
know where that is.01:21:15:00 --:--:--:--
It's a little cow town.01:21:16:12 --:--:--:--
But, uh, she came and got me,01:21:18:26 --:--:--:--
and I was out there01:21:20:06 --:--:--:--
and stayed clean, obviously,01:21:21:24 --:--:--:--
because I was at home
with her.01:21:23:29 --:--:--:--
And I came out here--
I came back home01:21:26:12 --:--:--:--
because I went to jail,
in Ironwood,01:21:28:26 --:--:--:--
and was there for a few days,
which is enough for me,01:21:32:01 --:--:--:--
and I-- you know,
I kind of put off--01:21:35:14 --:--:--:--
I went back out, and I used,01:21:37:16 --:--:--:--
so I've been clean for--01:21:39:01 --:--:--:--
I don't know the exact date.
It's been over a week now.01:21:41:11 --:--:--:--
I met a couple people,
actually,01:21:43:20 --:--:--:--
like-- like my old friends
that I used to have01:21:46:03 --:--:--:--
that didn't use,01:21:47:10 --:--:--:--
and I started
hanging out with them.01:21:48:24 --:--:--:--
You know, it's like,
"This is what I like.01:21:50:17 --:--:--:--
This is who I am."01:21:51:21 --:--:--:--
I got to be more myself.01:21:53:11 --:--:--:--
I mean very outgoing
and fun and so humorous,01:21:56:04 --:--:--:--
and I didn't do all the fun
things that I used to do,01:21:59:26 --:--:--:--
and it's kind of--
just the few events01:22:03:17 --:--:--:--
that have happened
in the last few weeks01:22:06:16 --:--:--:--
have made--
really opened my eyes01:22:07:24 --:--:--:--
and see the person
I really want to be01:22:09:20 --:--:--:--
and the person that I am01:22:10:28 --:--:--:--
because I haven't been
able to express that01:22:12:18 --:--:--:--
to all the losers
I've been hanging out with.01:22:14:10 --:--:--:--
And it's taken me
a lot of, uh, experience,01:22:18:13 --:--:--:--
and I've got lots of it
already--01:22:20:16 --:--:--:--
that to realize
that where I'm at--01:22:24:04 --:--:--:--
where I've been is not me,01:22:26:07 --:--:--:--
and I want to be me again01:22:27:21 --:--:--:--
because I haven't been me
for a long time.01:22:29:24 01:22:31:07
[Melissa]
Bless you.01:22:37:10 --:--:--:--
[Female Announcer]
There are many ways01:22:38:13 --:--:--:--
to get addicted.01:22:39:21 --:--:--:--
Fortunately,
there are a number of ways01:22:41:12 --:--:--:--
to start recovery.01:22:42:25 --:--:--:--
Call the Intervention
and Treatment Referral now,01:22:45:12 01:22:47:25
offered by
Spencer Recovery Centers.01:22:51:03 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
Well, I think there's
a lot of hope here.01:22:52:29 --:--:--:--
I think you're willing.01:22:54:16 --:--:--:--
[Megan]
Definitely.01:22:56:25 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
The path is kind of opening
for you at this point.01:22:59:02 --:--:--:--
It has to be you that wants
to walk down that path.01:23:02:06 --:--:--:--
We can't carry you down it.01:23:03:14 --:--:--:--
We can open it up here01:23:05:01 --:--:--:--
and have everyone
try to convince you01:23:07:08 --:--:--:--
that this is the life
that you would want,01:23:09:10 --:--:--:--
but you just need
to do it on your own,01:23:11:12 --:--:--:--
and I think that what works01:23:13:01 --:--:--:--
is when you go into
whatever facility it is01:23:15:05 --:--:--:--
and actually make it work,01:23:17:03 --:--:--:--
to show up to everything01:23:18:11 --:--:--:--
and not just tell them
what they want to hear01:23:20:13 --:--:--:--
but tell them what's really
going on with yourself01:23:22:09 --:--:--:--
because if you do that,
I mean, you--01:23:23:26 --:--:--:--
There's amazing stories,01:23:25:01 --:--:--:--
amazing things
that can happen,01:23:26:18 --:--:--:--
and think
about how wonderful
of a teacher you'll be.01:23:28:20 --:--:--:--
having this experience
under your belt as well.01:23:31:00 --:--:--:--
Jennifer went
to the Friendly House,01:23:33:08 --:--:--:--
and we heard
about the Friendly House01:23:35:00 --:--:--:--
and how wonderful it is.01:23:36:00 --:--:--:--
And Spencer Recovery01:23:37:08 --:--:--:--
is going to sponsor--
offer this to you01:23:39:17 --:--:--:--
where it will sponsor you
at the Friendly House01:23:41:16 --:--:--:--
for a long-term program01:23:43:07 --:--:--:--
where you can go--01:23:44:27 --:--:--:--
They said normally
from three to six months,01:23:46:19 --:--:--:--
but stay longer if needed.01:23:48:00 --:--:--:--
But it sounds like,
with that program,01:23:51:21 --:--:--:--
you have to make it work.01:23:52:29 --:--:--:--
They're not going
to do it for you.01:23:54:08 --:--:--:--
They have to know
that it's serious.01:23:55:16 --:--:--:--
But I think
a program like that--01:23:57:18 --:--:--:--
There's-- I think
there's, like, 20 women
from that program01:24:00:01 --:--:--:--
that are here right now.01:24:01:11 --:--:--:--
Do you want to raise
your hand if you're here?01:24:03:13 01:24:04:13
That's so cool.01:24:10:01 --:--:--:--
All of these people
that are at that facility01:24:12:01 --:--:--:--
are here with you
up on stage,01:24:13:28 --:--:--:--
and they're watching
this transition.01:24:15:17 --:--:--:--
They see Mom.
They-- They hear you.01:24:17:20 --:--:--:--
And they get it. They've
all been there as well.01:24:19:21 --:--:--:--
I said this before.01:24:20:27 --:--:--:--
No one's judging you
in any way.01:24:22:27 --:--:--:--
We're offering you this.01:24:24:05 --:--:--:--
It's not carrying you
through it.01:24:25:23 --:--:--:--
It's just offering you
this opportunity.01:24:27:10 --:--:--:--
It's actually follow-through01:24:29:01 --:--:--:--
and not get
to that Friday afternoon01:24:30:15 --:--:--:--
when you're thinking, Okay,01:24:31:23 --:--:--:--
I can probably make it
to my dealer's house01:24:33:19 --:--:--:--
and start in all over again.01:24:34:27 --:--:--:--
This is that--
You might have that feeling,01:24:36:25 --:--:--:--
but you have these
wonderful people01:24:38:12 --:--:--:--
to embrace you during
that period of time.01:24:41:04 --:--:--:--
So we have a package
here for you,01:24:44:05 --:--:--:--
and if you accept,01:24:45:19 --:--:--:--
then you can actually
go in today.01:24:47:21 --:--:--:--
There's no time
like the present.01:24:48:29 --:--:--:--
What do we have to lose
at this point, you know?01:24:51:25 --:--:--:--
And, you know, I'm sure
Mom will sleep better,01:24:53:27 --:--:--:--
but, you know, it--01:24:55:13 --:--:--:--
as you can see,
it's a wonderful place.01:24:58:02 --:--:--:--
That's all you need to hear--
someone like that.01:24:59:28 --:--:--:--
Literally, I spoke
to her this morning.01:25:01:14 --:--:--:--
She came up, and she's taking
over my job next week, so--01:25:05:04 --:--:--:--
That's what you got to hear.01:25:06:16 --:--:--:--
She's five years older,
but still you're young,01:25:08:08 --:--:--:--
and you have your whole
life ahead of you,01:25:10:12 --:--:--:--
and you
can be going to school01:25:11:26 --:--:--:--
to finish
that one last class,01:25:13:12 --:--:--:--
that one last class that we
all have to finish--01:25:15:14 --:--:--:--
[Megan]
Yes.01:25:16:14 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
From crystal meth still.01:25:17:22 --:--:--:--
So what do you say?
What do you think?01:25:20:02 --:--:--:--
[Megan]
I'll take it.01:25:20:24 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
Right on.01:25:21:15 01:25:22:22
[applause]01:25:24:23 01:25:26:16
[Mike Cohan]
I've got to give you
a hug now.01:25:32:22 01:25:35:01
[Cindy]
I'd stand up and hug you,
but I can't.01:25:36:10 --:--:--:--
[Megan]
My ankle. Thank you.01:25:38:01 --:--:--:--
I learned a lot,01:25:40:01 --:--:--:--
and I-- I know
what I have to do,01:25:42:17 --:--:--:--
and I'm finally ready.01:25:45:02 --:--:--:--
I'm ready to start now.01:25:46:07 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
Right on.01:25:46:29 01:25:48:07
[Cindy]
Right.01:25:55:27 01:25:59:23
[Melissa] I know she's, um,
going to be safe tonight.01:26:01:00 01:26:02:07
[Woman in audience]
Aw.01:26:04:07 --:--:--:--
[Melissa]
I love you, baby.01:26:05:14 01:26:06:15
[Megan]
I love you, too.01:26:07:21 01:26:09:13
[applause]01:26:14:00 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
This right here is what
Recovery Now is all about.01:26:17:11 --:--:--:--
We got to hear from Jennifer,01:26:18:25 --:--:--:--
who's done wonderful
at nine months.01:26:20:13 --:--:--:--
Got to hear from a mom01:26:22:06 --:--:--:--
and a person who had
intervention on them,01:26:24:27 --:--:--:--
and now you did an intervention
on your loved one,01:26:27:11 --:--:--:--
and then you got to be
a part of an intervention01:26:29:03 --:--:--:--
and hopeful.01:26:30:18 --:--:--:--
That's what we're trying
to do here is build hope.01:26:34:07 --:--:--:--
When you're in recovery,
there's so much hope.01:26:36:04 --:--:--:--
When you're out there
and you're fearful01:26:37:18 --:--:--:--
and you don't know
where to look for help,01:26:39:15 --:--:--:--
you feel like there's no hope.01:26:41:13 --:--:--:--
So if you or a loved one
is struggling with addiction,01:26:45:21 --:--:--:--
please reach out01:26:47:10 --:--:--:--
because there's plenty
of resources01:26:48:21 --:--:--:--
that could help you out01:26:49:29 --:--:--:--
with either intervention01:26:51:03 --:--:--:--
or just someone
to speak to,01:26:52:11 --:--:--:--
just someone
to bounce it off.01:26:54:00 --:--:--:--
And think about it, too.
You know, talk--01:26:55:21 --:--:--:--
Give yourself the advice
that you would give a friend.01:26:58:25 --:--:--:--
Megan, I wish you
the best of luck.01:27:00:07 --:--:--:--
There's a great life
in store for you.01:27:02:09 --:--:--:--
Whatever you're thinking,
multiply it by 10,01:27:04:27 --:--:--:--
and you're going to say
it's a fantasy,01:27:06:22 --:--:--:--
but it's so true.01:27:08:00 --:--:--:--
I'm grateful for all
of you being here.01:27:09:21 --:--:--:--
[chuckling]01:27:10:28 01:27:12:29
And thanks for coming
to Recovery Now.01:28:09:01 --:--:--:--
[Female Announcer]
There are many ways
to get addicted.01:28:10:26 --:--:--:--
Fortunately,
there are a number of ways01:28:13:01 --:--:--:--
to start recovery.01:28:14:13 --:--:--:--
Call the Intervention
and Treatment Referral now,01:28:17:01 01:28:19:08
offered by
Spencer Recovery Centers.

Episode 3

A heroin addict since age 18, Jennifer, now 25, is approaching 9 months of sobriety and comes to share her story. Cindy, a professional interventionist who has 13 years of sobriety, discusses the intervention process and takes questions from the audience. In a surprise turn of events, Mike asks audience member Melissa and her 20-year-old daughter, Megan, to the stage to discuss their mutual struggle with Megan's meth addiction. At the end of the show, Mike offers Megan treatment. Will take the offer?

Episode 3

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