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[Mike Cohan]
All we see is the train wrecks.01:00:05:05 --:--:--:--
All we see is the people01:00:06:15 --:--:--:--
shooting up crystal meth
on the street,01:00:08:05 --:--:--:--
and that's
the entertainment of it.01:00:09:14 --:--:--:--
But what they don't see
are those people01:00:10:29 --:--:--:--
that walk up the stairs wrecked.01:00:13:04 --:--:--:--
They walk up the stairs
just to shower,01:00:15:01 --:--:--:--
and a short period later,01:00:16:11 --:--:--:--
they have their family
back in their lives.01:00:18:13 --:--:--:--
There is so much hope
for everyone.01:00:20:04 --:--:--:--
This is Recovery Now.01:00:22:00 01:00:24:01
[audience applauding]01:00:35:00 --:--:--:--
[Megan]
I feel amazing.01:00:37:00 --:--:--:--
I feel like I'm me again,01:00:39:05 --:--:--:--
and it's really
a good feeling.01:00:40:26 --:--:--:--
[Woman]
And you'll come down there?01:00:42:10 01:00:43:19
[Man]
Yeah, of course.01:00:45:02 01:00:48:19
[Mike Cohan]
At this point,
what do we have to lose?01:00:53:20 01:00:57:02
Hello, everyone. Welcome.
This is Recovery Now.01:01:02:16 --:--:--:--
The last show we had,01:01:04:14 --:--:--:--
we ended
with an intervention01:01:06:15 --:--:--:--
that the audience
helped us out with,01:01:09:05 01:01:11:04
and we met with Megan.01:01:12:18 --:--:--:--
[Melissa]
She thought she
could do it herself.01:01:14:17 --:--:--:--
She didn't need to go
to a recovery center.01:01:18:07 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
Who is this loved one?01:01:19:28 --:--:--:--
Uh, it's my daughter.01:01:21:23 --:--:--:--
This has been ongoing for--01:01:23:19 --:--:--:--
[sniffles]01:01:24:27 --:--:--:--
uh, five, maybe six years.01:01:27:27 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
What would you say
to her right now?01:01:29:25 01:01:31:03
[Melissa]
I love her.01:01:32:17 01:01:34:27
And I want the world for her.01:01:40:10 01:01:42:13
And just please.01:01:43:17 01:01:46:09
Please do what we need to do
to help you.01:01:48:10 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
Can you--
Can you come down here?01:01:49:19 --:--:--:--
[audience applauding]01:01:52:23 --:--:--:--
[Megan]
It's nice to know
that there's other people01:01:55:15 --:--:--:--
that feel exactly what
you're going through.01:01:58:00 --:--:--:--
I realize that I do need them
and I need help.01:02:01:27 --:--:--:--
As young as I am,01:02:03:05 --:--:--:--
it's been-- it's been
an ongoing battle,01:02:05:05 --:--:--:--
and I'm ready to stop it.01:02:07:17 --:--:--:--
I went to jail, in Ironwood,
and was there for a few days.01:02:11:05 --:--:--:--
Where I'm at--
Where I've been is not me,01:02:15:02 --:--:--:--
and I want to be me again01:02:16:13 --:--:--:--
because I haven't been me
for a long time.01:02:18:20 --:--:--:--
[Melissa]
Bless you.01:02:20:23 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
We have a package
here for you,01:02:23:03 --:--:--:--
and if you accept,01:02:24:13 --:--:--:--
then you can actually
go in today.01:02:26:22 --:--:--:--
There's no time
like the present.01:02:28:09 --:--:--:--
What do we have to lose
at this point, you know?01:02:29:23 --:--:--:--
What do you say?
What do you think?01:02:31:12 --:--:--:--
[Megan]
I'll take it.01:02:32:06 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
Right on.01:02:32:28 01:02:34:03
[audience applauding]01:02:35:17 --:--:--:--
[Megan]
I'm ready to start now.01:02:37:02 01:02:40:24
[Melissa]
I know she's, um,
going to be safe tonight.01:02:52:10 01:02:53:12
[Mike Cohan]
You look great.01:02:55:18 --:--:--:--
So it's been
about 40 days,01:02:57:13 --:--:--:--
but altogether
you have about 60 days01:02:59:07 --:--:--:--
of sobriety, correct?01:03:00:21 --:--:--:--
For people who are
out there struggling,01:03:02:26 --:--:--:--
they need to know
that they put together
a couple of weeks.01:03:05:24 --:--:--:--
I didn't think
I could put together
a couple of weeks.01:03:08:02 --:--:--:--
I didn't think I could put
together a couple of days.01:03:10:10 --:--:--:--
I couldn't even go grocery--
Who could eat,01:03:12:00 --:--:--:--
you know, with crystal meth?01:03:13:17 --:--:--:--
But-- But here we are
after this period of time,01:03:16:19 --:--:--:--
and what I want to know
is, you know,01:03:18:19 --:--:--:--
how your life
has changed right now.01:03:20:03 --:--:--:--
[Megan]
Uh, I feel amazing.01:03:22:24 --:--:--:--
I feel like I'm me again,01:03:24:21 --:--:--:--
and it's
really a good feeling.01:03:26:09 --:--:--:--
It's a much better feeling01:03:28:15 --:--:--:--
to know that I have trust
in my family01:03:32:06 --:--:--:--
and good friends
to be in my life,01:03:35:25 --:--:--:--
and it's my life again.01:03:37:29 --:--:--:--
I have control over it,01:03:39:08 --:--:--:--
and it's
a really good feeling.01:03:41:02 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
That's awesome.01:03:42:10 --:--:--:--
And you're--
How old are you?01:03:43:14 --:--:--:--
[Megan]
I'm 20.01:03:44:14 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
20.01:03:45:02 --:--:--:--
If I remember correctly,01:03:46:07 --:--:--:--
you were actively using
for five years,01:03:48:07 --:--:--:--
or was it longer? Or shorter?01:03:49:24 --:--:--:--
[Megan]
Uh, about five
and a half years.01:03:52:03 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
Five and a half years.01:03:53:08 --:--:--:--
Crystal meth.
Any other drugs?01:03:54:23 --:--:--:--
[Megan]
Uh, like, weed01:03:57:12 --:--:--:--
and whatever was there,
pretty much,01:04:01:15 --:--:--:--
but, uh, it was mostly meth.01:04:04:15 --:--:--:--
That was my choice,01:04:06:04 --:--:--:--
and that was all I tried
to get my hands on.01:04:08:12 --:--:--:--
I wasn't really too worried
about finding anything else.01:04:11:11 --:--:--:--
That's all I needed-- wanted.01:04:13:21 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
Were you smoking meth,
shooting meth?01:04:16:22 --:--:--:--
[Megan]
Uh, at first
I was smoking it01:04:18:27 --:--:--:--
and eating it and snorting it,01:04:20:21 --:--:--:--
but it eventually got
to me shooting up,01:04:23:12 --:--:--:--
and that was something
I told myself I would never do,01:04:27:06 --:--:--:--
and I got to that point,01:04:29:20 --:--:--:--
and there was--01:04:31:18 --:--:--:--
It was the best way
to get high for me,01:04:33:29 --:--:--:--
so there was really no
looking back after that.01:04:37:15 --:--:--:--
So once I reached that point,01:04:40:01 --:--:--:--
I knew I was in trouble,01:04:41:06 --:--:--:--
but I didn't stop,01:04:42:25 --:--:--:--
and eventually
it got to the point01:04:45:10 --:--:--:--
where I was shooting up01:04:47:12 --:--:--:--
and I would go to sleep
afterwards.01:04:49:22 --:--:--:--
And that's not a good sign.01:04:52:16 --:--:--:--
So I took it
as not being a great sign01:04:54:26 --:--:--:--
and knew that I really
needed to change my ways01:04:57:05 --:--:--:--
and change my life.01:04:58:15 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
It's amazing.
I think a lot of us01:05:00:24 --:--:--:--
that were IV drug users01:05:02:01 --:--:--:--
said at one point
how "I'll never--01:05:04:19 --:--:--:--
I'll never put
a needle in my arm,"01:05:06:29 --:--:--:--
or, you know,
they didn't think01:05:08:07 --:--:--:--
they were actually
a drug addict01:05:09:22 --:--:--:--
unless they had
a needle in their arm01:05:11:12 --:--:--:--
or "I'm not going to put
that dirty drug in my arm,01:05:13:26 --:--:--:--
but I'll snort it
and eat it, though."01:05:15:16 --:--:--:--
That was a more fabulous way
of doing it or something,01:05:17:24 --:--:--:--
but yeah, it goes down fast.01:05:19:02 --:--:--:--
I mean, you're 20 years old,01:05:20:10 --:--:--:--
and you're addicted
to the needle as well.01:05:22:08 --:--:--:--
I mean, that's--01:05:23:23 --:--:--:--
All it takes is one--
one mishap,01:05:25:27 --:--:--:--
and you're never
with it in your mind.01:05:28:02 --:--:--:--
[Megan]
Uh-uh.01:05:28:22 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
All it takes01:05:29:09 --:--:--:--
is overshooting that mark
one time,01:05:30:17 --:--:--:--
and you're a goner.01:05:32:03 --:--:--:--
You get the gift,01:05:33:05 --:--:--:--
and you're willing
to give it back,01:05:34:13 --:--:--:--
and that's
what recovery is about.01:05:36:05 --:--:--:--
And it's like if we're
really participating
in recovery,01:05:38:01 --:--:--:--
whatever support system
that is,01:05:40:13 --:--:--:--
if it's 12 Steps,
whatever it might be,01:05:42:07 --:--:--:--
if you're participating
in recovery,01:05:43:22 --:--:--:--
part of that is being able
to share your experience,01:05:46:20 --:--:--:--
strength, and hope
with other people.01:05:48:18 --:--:--:--
I'm very interested
in, you know,01:05:50:11 --:--:--:--
the hope at this point,01:05:51:23 --:--:--:--
and granted it's only
been 60 days,01:05:53:24 --:--:--:--
but it's still
a long period of time.01:05:55:17 --:--:--:--
[Megan]
For me, yeah.01:05:56:19 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
You pretty much seem
to have a good grasp01:05:58:20 --:--:--:--
on what you wanted
to do with your life.01:06:00:17 --:--:--:--
Has that changed in any
ways in the last 60 days?01:06:02:22 --:--:--:--
[Megan]
Uh, I'm more eager
to go back to school.01:06:06:24 --:--:--:--
I want to--
I want to get my education,01:06:08:20 --:--:--:--
and I want to have
unlimited amount of options,01:06:11:15 --:--:--:--
and so I'm, like,
greatly looking forward01:06:15:18 --:--:--:--
to being able to do that01:06:16:26 --:--:--:--
and knowing that I'm going
to stick through with it01:06:18:17 --:--:--:--
rather than enrolling
and then dropping the classes.01:06:20:19 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
I know how that works.01:06:21:22 --:--:--:--
[Megan]
I did that tons of times.01:06:22:21 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
Yeah.01:06:23:18 --:--:--:--
[Megan]
But, um, I know
what my goals are01:06:26:12 --:--:--:--
that I have set for myself,01:06:27:20 --:--:--:--
and I know that I'm going
to go through with them.01:06:29:03 --:--:--:--
I'm very,
very positive about it.01:06:32:15 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
The sky's the limit.01:06:33:09 --:--:--:--
[Megan]
Yeah.01:06:34:03 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
I think we always knew
those goals that we'd make01:06:36:12 --:--:--:--
when we were high
or addicted to some drug01:06:38:24 --:--:--:--
that it was just
pie in the sky.01:06:40:00 --:--:--:--
[Megan]
Always.01:06:41:00 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
Sometimes when you
shoot the first drug01:06:42:14 --:--:--:--
and you're like,
"I'm going to do this.01:06:44:00 --:--:--:--
I'm going
to change the world--"01:06:45:08 --:--:--:--
[Megan]
I'd have-- I'd make
lists for myself.01:06:47:00 --:--:--:--
Okay, things to do.01:06:48:20 --:--:--:--
Did I-- And then
I'd find them later,01:06:50:22 --:--:--:--
and I'd be like,
"Never did it, never did it,01:06:52:24 --:--:--:--
never did it."
But now I'm actually--01:06:55:16 --:--:--:--
It's funny,
because the other day,01:06:56:27 --:--:--:--
I found a list
that I had written,01:06:58:17 --:--:--:--
like, you know,
a month ago,01:07:00:19 --:--:--:--
and I'd done everything
on the list.01:07:02:18 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
Good deal.01:07:03:19 --:--:--:--
[Megan]
And that was--01:07:04:20 --:--:--:--
that was
a really good feeling.01:07:06:09 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
By-- By choosing to be
completely abstinent01:07:08:29 --:--:--:--
from drug and alcohol,01:07:10:09 --:--:--:--
do you feel that you're
missing out on anything?01:07:12:12 --:--:--:--
[Megan]
No, I feel like I'm gaining.01:07:13:29 --:--:--:--
I feel like I've
gained a lot more.01:07:16:09 --:--:--:--
It's a really incredible
feeling.01:07:18:14 --:--:--:--
Um, there's nothing
that I'm missing.01:07:20:16 --:--:--:--
I'm getting a lot more
than I ever would.01:07:22:17 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
How wonderful.01:07:24:15 --:--:--:--
How-- How are things
going with Mom and Dad?01:07:26:23 --:--:--:--
[Megan]
Great. I've got trust.01:07:29:02 --:--:--:--
That's an awesome thing
to have again01:07:31:02 --:--:--:--
because it's been a long time
since I've had any trust.01:07:34:15 --:--:--:--
It's just nice to be able
to talk to them on the phone01:07:38:07 --:--:--:--
and for them to know--01:07:39:29 --:--:--:--
I just know in their voices,
because they know in mine,01:07:43:08 --:--:--:--
that everything's okay.01:07:44:20 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
And it is amazing01:07:46:02 --:--:--:--
that they can tell
just by your voice,01:07:47:22 --:--:--:--
just by your actions,01:07:49:02 --:--:--:--
just by the way that
you're talking with them,01:07:51:05 --:--:--:--
that you are okay,01:07:52:08 --:--:--:--
and it's an amazing
feeling for them.01:07:53:09 --:--:--:--
I saw how relieved
your mom looked.01:07:54:23 --:--:--:--
I spoke to your mom.01:07:56:07 --:--:--:--
She was driving back
to Arizona that night01:07:58:06 --:--:--:--
after the last show,01:07:59:13 --:--:--:--
and she was--
amazing relief,01:08:00:22 --:--:--:--
and your dad wrote
a beautiful letter as well.01:08:03:02 --:--:--:--
And-- And actually,
your dad's here
in the audience.01:08:06:05 --:--:--:--
Would you like to come up?01:08:07:16 --:--:--:--
[Dad]
Sure.01:08:08:03 01:08:09:15
[Mike Cohan]
Okay. Come on up.01:08:13:00 01:08:14:05
Nice to see you.01:08:19:17 --:--:--:--
[Female Announcer]
There are many ways01:08:20:20 --:--:--:--
to get addicted.01:08:21:28 --:--:--:--
Fortunately,
there are a number of ways01:08:23:19 --:--:--:--
to start recovery.01:08:25:02 --:--:--:--
Call the Intervention
and Treatment Referral now,01:08:27:19 01:08:30:02
offered by
Spencer Recovery Centers.01:08:34:20 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
Thanks for coming.
I think it's important01:08:36:16 --:--:--:--
for the parents out there01:08:38:08 --:--:--:--
to understand
the transition01:08:40:07 --:--:--:--
that you've gone through
in the last 40 days.01:08:43:11 --:--:--:--
And, um, you know,01:08:45:00 --:--:--:--
if you could speak
on that in any way,
it would be great.01:08:47:20 --:--:--:--
[Dad]
Well, I think
the biggest thing01:08:49:12 --:--:--:--
when I looked at the video
that you were showing,01:08:51:21 --:--:--:--
and regrettably they kept
panning up on me.01:08:54:17 --:--:--:--
and I'm not much of a crier,01:08:57:23 --:--:--:--
but, uh, five years01:09:00:09 --:--:--:--
pretty much culminated
up in those seats up there,01:09:03:18 --:--:--:--
and when my mother
and she were down here01:09:05:17 --:--:--:--
talking about
what had occurred,01:09:08:01 --:--:--:--
uh, you just--01:09:09:13 --:--:--:--
It's like your life
passing before your eyes.01:09:12:06 --:--:--:--
You see this little girl
that you've raised.01:09:14:24 --:--:--:--
It's-- It's just
a traumatic event01:09:17:22 --:--:--:--
in-- in your life.01:09:19:18 --:--:--:--
You don't escape it.01:09:20:18 --:--:--:--
Uh, her mom, I, her brother,01:09:23:10 --:--:--:--
uh, we did not
escape the addiction,01:09:25:29 --:--:--:--
and to see her accept it,01:09:29:14 --:--:--:--
uh, I honestly sat up there01:09:31:10 --:--:--:--
and was waiting for her
to run for the door.01:09:33:12 --:--:--:--
I did not think
she would accept it.01:09:35:18 --:--:--:--
I really didn't.01:09:37:03 --:--:--:--
And that was interesting
itself.01:09:38:22 --:--:--:--
Uh, but to see
the transformation in her,01:09:42:00 --:--:--:--
uh, the conversations we had--01:09:43:27 --:--:--:--
When we walked into this door
43 days ago,01:09:46:25 --:--:--:--
I did not trust her.01:09:48:08 --:--:--:--
If she wanted something,
I went to the store,01:09:50:04 --:--:--:--
and I would buy it
with her or for her01:09:52:15 --:--:--:--
when I got to the point
I did not give her any money.01:09:55:17 --:--:--:--
Uh, prior to coming up
that day,01:09:58:03 --:--:--:--
I'd sold her car
that I'd bought for her.01:10:00:27 --:--:--:--
There were just a lot
of things in my life01:10:02:29 --:--:--:--
that started changing,01:10:04:13 --:--:--:--
and they weren't
for the good.01:10:05:24 --:--:--:--
Um, but I felt-- ahem--01:10:08:23 --:--:--:--
guilty because I felt
I was enabling her.01:10:12:07 --:--:--:--
And I think, as parents,01:10:13:22 --:--:--:--
first of all, we want to deny
that there's a problem.01:10:16:23 --:--:--:--
It couldn't
happen to our child.01:10:18:04 --:--:--:--
Uh, the second thing
is then we start enabling01:10:20:20 --:--:--:--
to make up for the shortfalls
that she had.01:10:23:23 --:--:--:--
In the last month,01:10:25:05 --:--:--:--
we've had more serious
and straightforward01:10:28:13 --:--:--:--
and honest conversations,01:10:29:27 --:--:--:--
either by phone or in person.01:10:31:24 --:--:--:--
I can't tell you
how proud I am of her01:10:35:04 --:--:--:--
and all of her support she's
gotten for Friendly House.01:10:38:03 --:--:--:--
I mean, I feel like the women01:10:40:22 --:--:--:--
and the leaders there
are just real great friends.01:10:43:22 --:--:--:--
And they whisk her off
like a rabbit.01:10:45:15 --:--:--:--
I mean, she would--
you know, kiss me goodbye01:10:48:20 --:--:--:--
and say "Dad,
I'm running to the store."01:10:50:10 --:--:--:--
I wouldn't see her
for two weeks.01:10:52:04 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
I think we know the type.01:10:53:12 --:--:--:--
[audience members]
Yeah.01:10:54:14 --:--:--:--
[Dad]
I just never knew
when I saw her01:10:57:08 --:--:--:--
was this the last time
I'm going to see her.01:10:59:10 --:--:--:--
And I'm not being funny.01:11:00:25 --:--:--:--
I mean, she would be out,01:11:02:03 --:--:--:--
and-- and the crowd
she was running01:11:04:19 --:--:--:--
and the drugs she was using01:11:05:27 --:--:--:--
was so insidious
that, you know, is this it?01:11:08:29 --:--:--:--
And that literally was that.01:11:10:19 --:--:--:--
She would say, "Well, Dad,
I'm going to go get milk,"01:11:13:22 --:--:--:--
and then I wouldn't see--01:11:14:24 --:--:--:--
You know, she'd be gone,01:11:16:03 --:--:--:--
and I had no way
of contacting her.01:11:18:03 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
Anyone that's involved here
that accepts treatment,01:11:20:23 --:--:--:--
the-- the important part
to understand01:11:24:06 --:--:--:--
is that they're--
They can accept it,01:11:26:02 --:--:--:--
and if they decide
they don't want it,01:11:27:22 --:--:--:--
then they can leave.01:11:28:24 --:--:--:--
They get an opportunity,01:11:30:06 --:--:--:--
but it's their turn
to actually fly on their own.01:11:33:02 --:--:--:--
And we said that to you
before you accepted,01:11:35:04 --:--:--:--
and I think you did,01:11:36:07 --:--:--:--
and I know
at the Friendly House,01:11:37:21 --:--:--:--
you really have to do
the work yourself01:11:39:08 --:--:--:--
because that's
part of the growth.01:11:40:15 --:--:--:--
And you are doing the work.01:11:41:22 --:--:--:--
You want to stay longer,01:11:43:00 --:--:--:--
and it's--
it's all working for you.01:11:45:03 01:11:47:23
That's amazing.
Thank you so much
for coming.01:11:52:23 --:--:--:--
[Female Announcer]
There are many ways01:11:53:27 --:--:--:--
to get addicted.01:11:55:05 --:--:--:--
Fortunately,
there are a number of ways01:11:56:26 --:--:--:--
to start recovery.01:11:58:09 --:--:--:--
Call the Intervention
and Treatment Referral now,01:12:00:26 01:12:03:09
offered by
Spencer Recovery Centers.01:12:08:01 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
Thanks for coming up, Robert.01:12:09:09 --:--:--:--
[Robert]
No problem.01:12:09:27 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
So you have a loved one01:12:11:03 --:--:--:--
who is at that point,
it sounds like.01:12:13:17 --:--:--:--
[Robert]
Yeah.01:12:14:02 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
What's going on?01:12:14:25 --:--:--:--
[Robert]
Basically, my wife Sunny,01:12:17:16 --:--:--:--
uh, had a period of sobriety,01:12:21:09 --:--:--:--
and she relapsed back in May,01:12:25:12 --:--:--:--
and since then
it's just been, uh,01:12:28:19 --:--:--:--
treatment center
after sober living01:12:30:09 --:--:--:--
after treatment center
after, you know,01:12:32:27 --:--:--:--
just almost
reaching the point01:12:34:20 --:--:--:--
of complete, you know,01:12:36:16 --:--:--:--
seemingly
complete hopelessness.01:12:38:13 --:--:--:--
We have a small child. We have
a little 2 1/2-year-old son,01:12:42:03 --:--:--:--
and, uh, prior to that,
we were both working
in treatment.01:12:45:21 --:--:--:--
You know,
I still work in treatment.01:12:47:05 --:--:--:--
I've been clean four years,01:12:48:19 --:--:--:--
and it's just gotten
to the point where, you know,01:12:52:13 --:--:--:--
uh, she's no longer
living at our apartment01:12:54:15 --:--:--:--
because the drug use
has gotten so bad.01:12:57:10 --:--:--:--
The last time she left,
uh, treatment--01:13:00:27 --:--:--:--
I could really relate to what
Megan was talking about.01:13:03:16 --:--:--:--
I mean, the few days
when you don't hear from them01:13:06:19 --:--:--:--
and the compulsive checking
of the phone records01:13:09:19 --:--:--:--
and just like--01:13:11:01 --:--:--:--
Now she's been living
at her dad's house.01:13:13:25 --:--:--:--
I try my best
to try and keep her sober,01:13:16:09 --:--:--:--
even knowing
everything I know01:13:17:19 --:--:--:--
about the 12 Step program
and Al-Anon,01:13:19:17 --:--:--:--
and I still
am courting insanity01:13:22:13 --:--:--:--
of just trying
to just save her,01:13:24:03 --:--:--:--
knowing that she's up against
a monster of a disease.01:13:27:06 --:--:--:--
You know, she's still
in contact with the dealers01:13:29:14 --:--:--:--
and these guys who I've,
you know, just hate.01:13:32:15 --:--:--:--
It's just a nightmare,
you know?01:13:33:23 --:--:--:--
It's just been one
of the hardest years01:13:35:13 --:--:--:--
of my sobriety.01:13:36:25 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
So you're in recovery yourself?01:13:38:09 --:--:--:--
[Robert]
I am clean four years.01:13:39:27 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
Four years. And--01:13:41:00 --:--:--:--
That's amazing.
That's awesome.01:13:42:27 01:13:43:28
That's really cool.01:13:49:23 --:--:--:--
And her son-- Does--01:13:51:27 --:--:--:--
Do you have the custody
of your son?01:13:54:05 --:--:--:--
[Robert]
Uh, we're-- we're married,01:13:55:22 --:--:--:--
and, uh, so we haven't--01:13:57:15 --:--:--:--
It hasn't gotten
to that point.01:13:58:22 --:--:--:--
Between the grandparents
and myself01:14:00:10 --:--:--:--
and her when she's
not doing badly--01:14:03:23 --:--:--:--
You know, she's a great mom01:14:05:01 --:--:--:--
when she's, uh,
not detoxing or high,01:14:09:07 --:--:--:--
and those times are getting
fewer and far between.01:14:11:22 --:--:--:--
There have been days
when I have had to sacrifice01:14:13:24 --:--:--:--
my integrity as a parent,01:14:14:28 --:--:--:--
but the reality
of the situation has become01:14:17:18 --:--:--:--
what choice did I have,
you know?01:14:19:10 --:--:--:--
It's, uh,
I had to go to work or--01:14:21:04 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
Mm-hmm.01:14:22:04 --:--:--:--
[Robert]
You know, something had to--01:14:23:12 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
You do what you have to do.01:14:24:16 --:--:--:--
[Robert]
We did what we had to do.01:14:25:12 --:--:--:--
And, uh, I've never
understood powerlessness01:14:29:05 --:--:--:--
more than I do now,01:14:30:19 --:--:--:--
and I thought I had a very
firm understanding of that,01:14:33:10 --:--:--:--
and seeing it in a loved one01:14:35:14 --:--:--:--
and being in recovery
yourself--01:14:37:00 --:--:--:--
I mean, I feel so b--01:14:38:10 --:--:--:--
like, my parents, you know?01:14:39:29 --:--:--:--
Oh, my God. Now I understand
what I put them through.01:14:42:18 --:--:--:--
And I'm not playing
the victim at all.01:14:44:21 --:--:--:--
Like, I'm not saying
"Poor me," whatever, you know.01:14:47:06 --:--:--:--
I understand that this
disease is just a cold
piece of work.01:14:51:07 --:--:--:--
All I can tell her
at this point01:14:53:06 --:--:--:--
is, you know, just give
yourself another chance,
you know?01:14:56:24 --:--:--:--
Just try, you know?
Just go again.01:14:59:02 --:--:--:--
I don't know.
Just do something, you know?01:15:00:22 --:--:--:--
You have to do things
differently this time.01:15:02:17 --:--:--:--
I don't know.01:15:03:27 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
There's always another chance,01:15:04:28 --:--:--:--
no matter how bad it gets.01:15:06:03 --:--:--:--
I've seen people
turn around01:15:07:13 --:--:--:--
that were ten times
worse than that01:15:08:28 --:--:--:--
and in a very short
period of time01:15:10:25 --:--:--:--
just finding that one
that clicks.01:15:12:03 --:--:--:--
Making sure
the person's ready01:15:13:18 --:--:--:--
but then knowing that--01:15:15:02 --:--:--:--
that there's people
like the people in this room01:15:17:09 --:--:--:--
that are willing to just
put their hands out01:15:19:10 --:--:--:--
and try to help you
in any way possible.01:15:22:06 --:--:--:--
It is hard. I mean,
you're obviously young,01:15:25:04 --:--:--:--
and you have four years
of sobriety,01:15:27:06 --:--:--:--
trying to maintain
your own sobriety01:15:28:25 --:--:--:--
but yet trying to detox
your wife, you know,01:15:32:05 --:--:--:--
and that's
a noble thing as well.01:15:34:23 --:--:--:--
It's just-- Some people
might not agree with it,01:15:36:19 --:--:--:--
some people might,
and I can understand it01:15:38:08 --:--:--:--
because you're doing
what you can01:15:39:16 --:--:--:--
to have a somewhat normal
life for your son.01:15:41:12 --:--:--:--
[Robert]
Right.01:15:42:13 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
Uh, I--01:15:44:05 --:--:--:--
Is it possible--01:15:45:07 --:--:--:--
Can we talk to your wife?01:15:46:16 --:--:--:--
[Robert]
Yeah. She's here today.01:15:47:16 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
Is she willing
to talk with us?01:15:48:27 --:--:--:--
[Robert]
You can ask her yourself.01:15:50:08 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
Is she out there?01:15:51:14 --:--:--:--
[Robert]
Sunny, are you willing
to talk to him?01:15:53:23 --:--:--:--
[Sunny]
Yeah.01:15:54:28 01:15:55:28
[Mike Cohan]
Come on down.01:16:12:23 --:--:--:--
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[Mike Cohan]
Hi, Sunny. Thank you
so much for coming up here.01:16:30:07 --:--:--:--
[Sunny]
Hello.01:16:31:15 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
It was a brave thing to do.01:16:33:09 --:--:--:--
What I want to establish,
and I think you know this,01:16:36:00 01:16:39:13
is the support
that's in this room.01:16:40:27 --:--:--:--
Can you feel that?01:16:42:22 --:--:--:--
[Sunny]
Yeah.01:16:43:26 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
The people in this room01:16:45:12 --:--:--:--
have come from four different
treatment centers01:16:47:09 --:--:--:--
in the area,01:16:49:12 --:--:--:--
and they came
on their own will01:16:51:20 --:--:--:--
because they wanted to be01:16:53:06 --:--:--:--
a part of this
experience for somebody.01:16:55:09 --:--:--:--
[Sunny]
Mm-hmm.01:16:56:25 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
Where are you at today
with your addiction?01:16:59:29 --:--:--:--
[Sunny]
Uh, at this point, I'm just
feeling kind of like, um...01:17:04:06 --:--:--:--
you know, I had a--01:17:06:21 --:--:--:--
a long period of sobriety--01:17:08:06 --:--:--:--
I had a period of sobriety01:17:09:10 --:--:--:--
for about two and a half years,
you know,01:17:11:00 --:--:--:--
and, uh, before I got sober,01:17:13:14 --:--:--:--
I'd been to, you know,01:17:15:01 --:--:--:--
uh, many treatment centers01:17:17:00 --:--:--:--
before I even got
that sobriety, you know,01:17:18:29 --:--:--:--
and I went to prison.
I went to jail, you know?01:17:21:02 --:--:--:--
And I had a spiritual
awakening at that time.01:17:24:00 --:--:--:--
I realized
it wasn't worth it,01:17:25:17 --:--:--:--
you know, and I was
ruining my life.01:17:27:22 --:--:--:--
And, uh, when I got out,
you know,01:17:29:23 --:--:--:--
I was grateful
and scared, you know,01:17:31:07 --:--:--:--
and I stayed clean off that01:17:32:15 --:--:--:--
for, you know,
a good period of time.01:17:34:24 --:--:--:--
And I was working
in treatment, you know,01:17:36:23 --:--:--:--
and, um, I guess maybe
I just got overwhelmed,01:17:39:19 --:--:--:--
and I put my Step work
on the back burner,01:17:41:21 --:--:--:--
and I went out, and I--01:17:43:21 --:--:--:--
For the first, like, month,01:17:44:24 --:--:--:--
nobody really noticed,
you know,01:17:46:26 --:--:--:--
I was shooting dope.01:17:48:20 --:--:--:--
I was shooting
heroin and meth01:17:50:19 --:--:--:--
in my neck every day,01:17:52:09 --:--:--:--
and, um, you know,
working in treatment--01:17:55:11 --:--:--:--
trying to work
12 Step, you know,01:17:56:19 --:--:--:--
and just trying to go
to this meeting01:17:58:20 --:--:--:--
and be secretary,01:18:00:15 --:--:--:--
still high, you know.01:18:01:26 --:--:--:--
And, uh, living
with the AA Police over here.01:18:04:29 --:--:--:--
I, uh...01:18:06:09 --:--:--:--
[audience members chuckle]01:18:07:12 --:--:--:--
You know, eventually,
it got just, uh,01:18:09:26 --:--:--:--
you know, out of control.01:18:11:17 --:--:--:--
I said I would
do the hard work,01:18:12:27 --:--:--:--
and then I'm in trying
to find a vein01:18:14:22 --:--:--:--
in the bathroom
all night, you know?01:18:16:05 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
In the treatment center.01:18:17:16 --:--:--:--
[Sunny]
Yeah, you know, I said
I would do all these Steps01:18:20:13 --:--:--:--
and get high--
and do the hard work,01:18:21:27 --:--:--:--
and then, you know,
I'm getting high there01:18:23:12 --:--:--:--
I stole medication,
you know,01:18:25:04 --:--:--:--
And then, eventually,01:18:26:21 --:--:--:--
once I quit my job,
you know,01:18:28:07 --:--:--:--
I went to Sober Living.01:18:29:15 --:--:--:--
After Sober Living, after--01:18:31:00 --:--:--:--
I've been to--01:18:32:10 --:--:--:--
I've probably 86'ed01:18:33:23 --:--:--:--
from, like, every treatment
center in Los Angeles01:18:35:24 --:--:--:--
at this point, you know?01:18:36:29 --:--:--:--
I've been to--01:18:38:00 --:--:--:--
Since I realize
in five months,01:18:39:09 --:--:--:--
I've been to, like,
12, I think, like, places,01:18:41:26 --:--:--:--
including detox
and Sober Living.01:18:43:13 --:--:--:--
Rehabs, like, you know,
just are over in five months.01:18:46:08 --:--:--:--
You know, when I use there,
nobody notices,01:18:48:16 --:--:--:--
except Robert, you know,01:18:50:04 --:--:--:--
because now he's so trained
to know, like, when I'm high,01:18:53:20 --:--:--:--
but he can tell just
by one glance at me,01:18:56:03 --:--:--:--
but if somebody
doesn't know me, you know,01:18:57:23 --:--:--:--
they don't really--01:18:59:02 --:--:--:--
I use there, and I use there,
and I use there,01:19:01:10 --:--:--:--
and I go on until I start
doing things that are shady,01:19:03:22 --:--:--:--
and eventually
it catches up with me,01:19:05:11 --:--:--:--
and I get kicked out
for, like, stealing
a couple quarters01:19:07:19 --:--:--:--
or something stupid, you know?01:19:09:05 --:--:--:--
They really
can't pin it on me01:19:10:19 --:--:--:--
because I'm peeing clean,
you know?01:19:12:11 --:--:--:--
And I went to CLARE,01:19:15:00 --:--:--:--
and I hadn't been
able to put together
more than a week01:19:17:14 --:--:--:--
for five months.
Since I relapsed,01:19:19:05 --:--:--:--
I haven't been able to put
together more than a week.01:19:21:13 --:--:--:--
And I went to CLARE.
It was the last place I went.01:19:23:27 --:--:--:--
And I had,
like, 28 days there.01:19:25:19 --:--:--:--
And, um, so I wanted
to buy heroin.01:19:27:25 --:--:--:--
My roommate bought heroin,01:19:29:10 --:--:--:--
and, uh, I couldn't say no.01:19:31:10 --:--:--:--
I had no mental defense
against the needle.01:19:33:14 --:--:--:--
You know,
in my face, you know?01:19:34:28 --:--:--:--
It was just too much for me.01:19:36:22 --:--:--:--
You know, I didn't
want to relapse,01:19:38:21 --:--:--:--
you know, at this point.01:19:39:26 --:--:--:--
I just did it, because,
you know,01:19:41:10 --:--:--:--
it was there, and, uh,01:19:42:24 --:--:--:--
I went on a few days' run,
and I came home,01:19:44:29 --:--:--:--
and I've been on probably
two runs since then,01:19:48:07 --:--:--:--
and, you know, at this point,01:19:49:29 --:--:--:--
I'm living at my dad's house,01:19:51:18 --:--:--:--
and my dad's clean
almost two years, you know,01:19:54:04 --:--:--:--
and he's
a different person now,01:19:56:14 --:--:--:--
even though I used with him
for a long time.01:19:58:17 --:--:--:--
And this time,
he just found my needles,01:20:01:05 --:--:--:--
and I had just some needles01:20:03:24 --:--:--:--
and some heroin
in a little pouch,01:20:05:08 --:--:--:--
and I left it
in the drawer.01:20:07:05 --:--:--:--
And he found it,
and he threw it away,01:20:09:07 --:--:--:--
and I just did not
have the energy01:20:10:28 --:--:--:--
to go out from Malibu on a bus01:20:12:27 --:--:--:--
and just go crazy,
collect everything, you know?01:20:16:02 --:--:--:--
I just didn't have
that energy in me,01:20:17:22 --:--:--:--
and I just said I kind of
give up at this point,01:20:20:06 --:--:--:--
and I haven't, you know,
gotten high since then.01:20:23:08 01:20:24:13
[Mike Cohan]
Okay.01:20:25:24 --:--:--:--
Well, you say you've been
trying to put weeks--01:20:28:17 --:--:--:--
or you put a week
at a time together.01:20:32:03 --:--:--:--
That makes me feel
like you're trying
to do something.01:20:34:17 --:--:--:--
[Sunny]
I am in a perpetual
state of next rehab.01:20:37:19 --:--:--:--
You know, I've gotten--
I use with these people,01:20:39:15 --:--:--:--
and it's always like
"Yeah, here I am.01:20:42:00 --:--:--:--
A couple of days before
I go to rehab again."01:20:44:02 --:--:--:--
Like, you know,
it's just like,01:20:45:10 --:--:--:--
everyone's like, "Oh,
she's out of rehab again."01:20:47:00 --:--:--:--
Like, you know what I mean?01:20:48:08 --:--:--:--
Like I just--
I'm trying to keep--01:20:49:22 --:--:--:--
I'm so irritable, restless,
and discontent in my own mind.01:20:52:03 --:--:--:--
You know, I just--
when I use, it eases that.01:20:54:12 --:--:--:--
I just, like, at this point,01:20:56:03 --:--:--:--
want everyone
to think I'm sober01:20:57:11 --:--:--:--
and for me to be high,
you know.01:20:59:01 --:--:--:--
That's what my ideal
situation would be.01:21:01:23 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
I think we all at some point--01:21:04:00 --:--:--:--
You know, we're all
master manipulators.01:21:06:14 --:--:--:--
You just happen to be
positioned--01:21:08:25 --:--:--:--
positioning yourself
into a treatment center01:21:11:29 --:--:--:--
as a staff member,
being manipulative.01:21:14:27 --:--:--:--
You know, that's tough
because it's,01:21:16:19 --:--:--:--
you know, that's
playing on your head,01:21:18:03 --:--:--:--
and you have a conscience,01:21:19:22 --:--:--:--
and I'm sure that was
making you feel bad01:21:21:18 --:--:--:--
and wanting to,
you know, use more.01:21:23:02 --:--:--:--
[Sunny]
I did quit on my own, so--01:21:24:29 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
Is there a willingness,01:21:26:03 --:--:--:--
or are you basically
giving up?01:21:27:17 --:--:--:--
[Sunny]
I am-- I'm willing to try.
I keep trying, you know.01:21:30:22 --:--:--:--
I'm not willing to give up
and just surrender01:21:32:27 --:--:--:--
and say
"Oh, [bleep] my family,"01:21:34:05 --:--:--:--
you know,
"[bleep] my life."01:21:35:21 --:--:--:--
You know, I'm not
willing to-- Oh, sorry.01:21:37:19 --:--:--:--
I'm not really
willing to say that.01:21:39:14 --:--:--:--
But, um...01:21:41:26 --:--:--:--
It's just I don't feel like,01:21:43:22 --:--:--:--
after working
in treatment centers01:21:45:04 --:--:--:--
and being in so many
treatment centers, you know,01:21:47:00 --:--:--:--
I just-- I just don't--
I-- Like you were saying,01:21:50:23 --:--:--:--
you know,
you asked a question--01:21:52:11 --:--:--:--
who can see, like, um,01:21:54:25 --:--:--:--
who has a problem where they
can feel like, you know,01:21:57:20 --:--:--:--
they've been to treatment
center after treatment center,01:21:59:25 --:--:--:--
and, you know,
they've already--01:22:01:09 --:--:--:--
you know what's going
to come, you know?01:22:02:29 --:--:--:--
And after being
in so many places,01:22:06:06 --:--:--:--
you know, every different
kind of place you can imagine,01:22:08:17 --:--:--:--
you know, I've been there--
high, low, middle.01:22:10:22 --:--:--:--
Sober Living rehab,
like Sober Living/rehab.01:22:14:06 --:--:--:--
Whatever it is, like,
you know, I've been there,01:22:16:02 --:--:--:--
and I'm kind of aware01:22:17:13 --:--:--:--
of what comes with it,
you know,01:22:19:04 --:--:--:--
and I've, you know?01:22:20:20 --:--:--:--
It's hard for me
to be open-minded01:22:22:19 --:--:--:--
when I know already01:22:24:10 --:--:--:--
what I'm dealing with,
you know.01:22:25:22 --:--:--:--
I-- What's it going
to do this time?01:22:27:27 --:--:--:--
You know, why is this place
going to be magical?01:22:30:17 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
Mm-hmm. Yeah.01:22:31:19 --:--:--:--
[Sunny]
And just sprinkle
some [bleep]01:22:33:00 --:--:--:--
rehab dust on me,
and I'm going to be like "Ah!"01:22:35:27 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
You know, we're all
master manipulators,01:22:37:20 --:--:--:--
and I don't think it matters
how smart the facilities are01:22:40:25 --:--:--:--
or how smart you are.01:22:42:09 --:--:--:--
You think you're
outsmarting the facility.01:22:44:01 --:--:--:--
I think you're just
outsmarting yourself01:22:46:14 --:--:--:--
because you're the only--01:22:47:19 --:--:--:--
The joke's on you
at that point,01:22:48:22 --:--:--:--
and I mean that lovingly.01:22:49:18 --:--:--:--
[Sunny]
I'm aware of that. Yeah.01:22:51:03 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
There are people that wait
weeks, months, years01:22:55:03 --:--:--:--
on waiting lists trying
to get into facilities.01:22:57:16 --:--:--:--
There are people that pay
thousands and thousands01:23:00:21 --:--:--:--
and thousands of dollars01:23:01:29 --:--:--:--
or exhaust their
insurance policies.01:23:03:16 --:--:--:--
There is treatment
for everyone.01:23:05:22 --:--:--:--
But, uh...the point
I'm trying to make01:23:10:00 --:--:--:--
is that if you are
given an opportunity01:23:13:15 --:--:--:--
and if you took it seriously,01:23:16:00 --:--:--:--
would it be worth it for you?01:23:18:20 --:--:--:--
[Sunny]
I mean, I don't know
the answer to that question.01:23:20:28 --:--:--:--
You know, I don't--
I don't know.01:23:23:00 --:--:--:--
I'm sick of hearing
myself say--01:23:25:00 --:--:--:--
say things
over and over again.01:23:27:01 --:--:--:--
You know, I just--01:23:28:05 --:--:--:--
I hate having
these conversations01:23:29:29 --:--:--:--
because I just hear myself01:23:31:11 --:--:--:--
repeating the same crap
over and over again, you know?01:23:33:07 --:--:--:--
At this point, you know,01:23:36:01 --:--:--:--
I hate playing "I'm going
to try and do this this time,01:23:39:03 --:--:--:--
and it's going to be different
and whatever," you know?01:23:41:06 --:--:--:--
Uh, a part of me
does believe that,01:23:43:03 --:--:--:--
but a part of me doesn't
want to just, you know,01:23:45:11 --:--:--:--
say that and then, you know,01:23:47:11 --:--:--:--
just bounce and, you know?01:23:49:04 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
Right.01:23:49:28 --:--:--:--
[Sunny]
I hate doing this
over and over again.01:23:52:13 --:--:--:--
I just feel like
it's a broken record.01:23:54:11 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
What's interesting
about this show01:23:56:11 --:--:--:--
is that when we
offer someone treatment,01:23:59:03 --:--:--:--
usually people
from the treatment facility01:24:01:08 --:--:--:--
are in the audience
watching this as well,01:24:05:04 --:--:--:--
so if you were to accept
an option01:24:08:25 --:--:--:--
of going to treatment,01:24:10:22 --:--:--:--
and you were willing
to trust01:24:13:01 --:--:--:--
that these programs work--01:24:14:22 --:--:--:--
And, you know,
the beauty of this show01:24:16:28 --:--:--:--
is that it has worked01:24:18:12 --:--:--:--
for the people that have
put forth the effort.01:24:20:18 --:--:--:--
We have an accountability
to those people01:24:22:27 --:--:--:--
in the audience as well01:24:24:07 --:--:--:--
that a lot of them have
paid thousands of dollars01:24:26:04 --:--:--:--
to be in the facility.01:24:27:09 --:--:--:--
If you're going to be
given the opportunity,01:24:28:29 --:--:--:--
it's like
it's your time to shine.01:24:30:13 --:--:--:--
And it's time to shine
for yourself,01:24:31:27 --:--:--:--
but these people are behind
you every step of the way.01:24:34:09 --:--:--:--
So recovery, as you know,01:24:36:22 --:--:--:--
is people reaching
themselves out to help you01:24:39:05 --:--:--:--
get through your recovery,01:24:40:15 --:--:--:--
and we are willing
to do that.01:24:42:07 --:--:--:--
We have
Spencer Recovery Center.01:24:45:00 --:--:--:--
It is a residential
rehabilitation center01:24:47:26 --:--:--:--
with, uh, detoxification,
group therapy,01:24:51:10 --:--:--:--
one-on-one counseling,
relapse prevention,01:24:53:23 --:--:--:--
education, classes.01:24:55:13 --:--:--:--
Uh, you know,
you can do extended care.01:24:57:24 --:--:--:--
There's a work program
as well.01:24:59:09 --:--:--:--
Um, but you would--01:25:01:23 --:--:--:--
They would know who you are01:25:03:09 --:--:--:--
because you were honest
enough to come up here,01:25:05:10 --:--:--:--
which is a big thing.01:25:06:12 --:--:--:--
You basically
told on yourself01:25:08:06 --:--:--:--
on "This is how
manipulative I can be,"01:25:10:17 --:--:--:--
so it would be--01:25:11:22 --:--:--:--
You would be taking
a gamble yourself01:25:13:08 --:--:--:--
at this time if you
really want to get
clean and sober.01:25:16:07 --:--:--:--
It's an amazing opportunity.01:25:18:04 --:--:--:--
Uh, the program
was nice enough01:25:19:26 --:--:--:--
to offer you the prog--
the actual treatment package,01:25:23:03 --:--:--:--
but the only thing
you need to do01:25:25:00 --:--:--:--
is not just go
through the motions.01:25:27:02 --:--:--:--
You know, you have to
show up for everything01:25:28:28 --:--:--:--
but--
but really be yourself01:25:30:26 --:--:--:--
and get something
out of it,01:25:32:10 --:--:--:--
and I think you'll know,
and I think they'll know01:25:34:12 --:--:--:--
if you're not getting
anything out of it01:25:36:02 --:--:--:--
and just wasting time.01:25:37:07 --:--:--:--
I would love to see you
back here,01:25:38:27 --:--:--:--
um, in 30 days01:25:40:07 --:--:--:--
and maybe be back here
with your son.01:25:41:27 --:--:--:--
And I know
you love your son.01:25:44:09 --:--:--:--
I know that if you didn't
want to come here,01:25:46:23 --:--:--:--
you wouldn't have had
to come here,01:25:48:07 --:--:--:--
and you would have been
"We're manipulative.01:25:49:28 --:--:--:--
We can get out of this
any way we want."01:25:51:25 --:--:--:--
There wasn't
that much pressure,01:25:53:02 --:--:--:--
but you did come down,
and you were honest.01:25:55:09 --:--:--:--
And yes, we might
be sitting here01:25:56:23 --:--:--:--
and saying "Oh, you
shouldn't be manipulative,"01:25:58:17 --:--:--:--
but I think we're
all willing to say01:26:00:18 --:--:--:--
if you're willing to do it,01:26:02:13 --:--:--:--
you can know that you
can fall back on us01:26:04:15 --:--:--:--
at this point as well01:26:05:20 --:--:--:--
and give it one more shot
because how old are you?01:26:07:05 --:--:--:--
[Sunny]
23.01:26:08:02 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
23.01:26:09:17 --:--:--:--
So much time ahead of you,01:26:11:06 --:--:--:--
and I tried to get
a picture of your son.01:26:13:08 --:--:--:--
I have him on my phone.01:26:14:16 --:--:--:--
A beautiful 2-year-old?01:26:15:23 --:--:--:--
[Robert]
2 1/2.01:26:17:05 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
2 1/2-year-old who is
sitting in this high chair01:26:18:19 --:--:--:--
eating a piece of bread01:26:19:21 --:--:--:--
with a big huge
smile on his face01:26:21:11 --:--:--:--
like he was posing
for a Gap commercial01:26:23:01 --:--:--:--
or something like that.01:26:24:10 --:--:--:--
But this is what
you have to live for.01:26:25:25 --:--:--:--
So what I'm asking you
at this point--01:26:27:13 --:--:--:--
and I think
what everyone else
is wanting to know--01:26:29:15 --:--:--:--
is will you give it
one more shot01:26:31:16 01:26:33:06
and are you willing
to go to treatment?01:26:34:11 --:--:--:--
[Sunny]
To Spencer House?01:26:35:16 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
Mm-hmm.01:26:36:03 --:--:--:--
[Sunny]
Where is it?01:26:37:22 --:--:--:--
[audience laughing]01:26:39:07 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
It's in Laguna Beach.01:26:40:14 01:26:42:03
It's a residential
facility.01:26:44:05 --:--:--:--
[Sunny]
Mmm--01:26:45:08 --:--:--:--
[Mike Cohan]
And all you have to do
is put forth your trust--01:26:48:13 --:--:--:--
[Sunny]
How long?01:26:49:28 01:26:51:03
[Mike Cohan]
It's as long as you want.01:26:55:03 --:--:--:--
[Sunny]
And you'll come down there?01:26:56:17 --:--:--:--
[Robert]
Yeah, of course.01:26:58:12 01:26:59:23
[Mike Cohan]
And so won't your son.01:27:06:18 --:--:--:--
At this point,
what do we have to lose?01:27:10:10 --:--:--:--
I know it's scary01:27:12:03 --:--:--:--
because you've been--01:27:13:08 --:--:--:--
[Sunny]
Can I use my phone?
Just kidding.01:27:15:17 --:--:--:--
Um...01:27:16:28 --:--:--:--
Uh, I was...01:27:19:25 --:--:--:--
[Robert]
Look at the people
in the audience.01:27:21:15 --:--:--:--
[Sunny]
Uh, uh, okay.01:27:24:03 01:27:25:28
[audience applauding]01:27:28:08 01:27:29:12
[Robert]
I'll come down there, okay?01:28:16:15 --:--:--:--
[Female Announcer]
There are many ways
to get addicted.01:28:18:16 --:--:--:--
Fortunately,
there are a number of ways01:28:20:12 --:--:--:--
to start recovery.01:28:21:23 --:--:--:--
Call the Intervention
and Treatment Referral now,01:28:24:16 01:28:26:20
offered by
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Episode 4

On the last episode, we met Megan, a 20-year-old meth addict desperate to clean up her act. On this episode, we meet the new Megan, who is now 43 days into treatment and a completely different young woman. Joined onstage by her father, Megan discusses what life used to be like and what it’s like today. We also meet Sunny, a 23-year-old wife, mother, and active heroin addict. Once an employee in a treatment facility, Sunny relapsed over five months ago and has not been able to regain her sobriety since. In an impromptu, on-stage intervention, host Mike offers Sunny the help that she needs, but she appear hesitant to accept…will she give treatment another shot?

Episode 4

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